The issue with the list is that it clearly suppresses evidence that is not in line with the operators opinions, effectively lying by ommitting relevant context to distort the truth.
See my list on the talk page.. Despitte being respectful and showing a mountain of evidence to disprove the evidence claimed for QOTO on the block list none of this evidence was actually added (in fact in response they added another entry claiming I harassed her). Instead despite the polite mention I was blocked.
https://joinfediverse.wiki/Talk:FediBlock
This isnt a case of "admins make up your own mind".. this is a case of explicitly lieing, presenting on the cherry picked out of context evidence to support your agenda and suppressing all evidence that disproves the claim int he block.
Is that really a block list you want to support? I mean come on the majority of instances on the list dont even bother providing evidence.
It's that time of year again. Make sure to use inclusive language and only mention your yule tree, Santa, and xmas.
Thankyou. I will update the document with the new wording... I will add you as a contributor since this is coming from you, thanks.
Yeah, sure, @freemo messes up sometimes. Because he actually DOES THINGS.
He also seeks constructive criticism and corrects course. More than once a day in public.
You can be comfortable, or you can be a change agent.
Good heavens! That section of the talk page certainly makes it clear now the kind of thing that's going on. It really is just a Paula Don't Like You List, which is a fine thing for Paula to have, but it distresses me that it's being advertised as some kind of centralized list that people can use.
Even though it says that everyone using it should check every item, people are lazy, and some aren't going to do that.
The point that no mod should be that lazy is well taken, so maybe any such servers are no great loss anyway, but I feel sorry for their users.
One of the things I've tentatively concluded in my journey from teenage libertarianism to old-guy leftism, is that being nice to shitty people is in some cases a bad idea. :)
But regardless, as Jon says, preventing all of one's users from seeing qoto, not because of anything actually on the server, but in order to indirectly pressure its mod to behave differently, seems to be a pretty weird set of priorities to me.
Apparently being, even to shitty people, is a dog whistle, but only when those shitty people arent you :)
@freemo @toxomat @shelenn @ceoln the latest comment reads to me as.... Despite proof Yay all stated concerns are resolved, there's still problems and if you don't know, I'm not going to tell you.
Hardly treating others well with that kind of attitude. Feels less like a vetted list and more like.. the Paula Don't Like You list. 🤣
Treating others well is one thing I think #qoto is known for. Sad that the idea isn't shared more widely.
@shelenn
Seriously? Not your fault, I know, but #qoto does NOT have "no moderation"; this is a complete myth. qoto is as moderated as any server. It's not some kind of "free speech" absolutist nuthouse.
What qoto doesn't have (in most cases) is #defederation, and the reasons for that are nicely spelled out here: https://qoto.org/@freemo/109319817943835261
I'm on qoto, and as far as I can tell the fact that it's been defederated by some other servers has no impact whatever: I see lots and lots of people, and lots and lots of people obviously see me.
I really don't get it.k
@Romaq @freemo @realcaseyrollins @ufoi @timezoneless @floppy @skanman @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @Gaythia @realcaseyrollins @stux @stux @trinsec @khird @darnell @jq
Welp ... that's what Elon Musk is trying at twitter.
Time will tell how well that plays out, but in the meantime, we're trying to do things differently in the Fediverse, if I understand correctly what y'all are trying to do.
@ufoi Timeline is empty, but I hope it will function correctly so I can see Stuff Going On.
Since I'm trying to phase out tagging everyone individually, as it feels a bit scammy, but everyone asked to be kept in the loop... so here are some alternate "official" ways the conversation should continue:
1) On the official Gitlab repository, which is where all voting and formal discussions will take place
https://gitlab.com/ufoi/constitution
2) The group found here for mastodon discussions (just tag them instead of everyone): @ufoi
3) On matrix chat. #UFoI:matrix.org
And of sourse you are all welcome to contact me directly. I am very excited how there is so much talk about it and it hasnt even been released for 24 hours yet!
@timezoneless @floppy @ufoi @skanman @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @realcaseyrollins @stux @stux @trinsec @khird @darnell #mastoadmin @jq
Oooog.... I think we melted the git server. I was in the middle of posting but I'll wait until git recovers from its current trauma.
You should throw in your two cents if your interested.
We already have 4 discussions and one edit going here (you can jump in too):
https://gitlab.com/ufoi/constitution
the repo is set up so any edits done update the pdf life now, which is here:
https://ufoi.gitlab.io/constitution/united_federation_of_instances_proposal.pdf
@skanman @floppy @john @stevenclyman @robryk @ejg @dashrandom @Romaq @ichoran @AlanOutback @tsomof @aebrockwell @Ryle @tatzelbrumm @Gaythia @realcaseyrollins @stux @stux @trinsec @khird @darnell @jq
So energizing to see all this activity after just a few hours of launching the United Federation of Instances repo.
https://gitlab.com/ufoi/constitution
We already have 7 discussions going on and 2 merge requests for the proposal... The more people keep getting involved the more energy I have to put more into it. Cant wait to finish a draft of the bylaws.