The idea that bad people having a voice on social media causes other people to become bad people (often the argument as to why we must defederate from bad servers) is equivalent to:
Thinking violent video games cause people to become violent.
Thinking explicit song lyrics cause people to become criminals
Allowing people to be openly homosexual will cause others to become homosexual
Banning books
@freemo Being exposed to ideas can do harm.
Examples: people purporting to be leftist indulging in war propaganda. Happening right now in germany - they want war.
So, what is the distinguishing criteria, what do we need to stop?
I guess stopping the bad people is out, they do have figured it out enough to have sway.
Not accepting calls to hate might be an idea?
@admitsWrongIfProven You havent actually made the case that being exposed to ideas can do harm. Your example is a bad idea, sure, but you havent made the case that it was exposure to the idea that is the cause rather than the predisposition of the people to draw such conclusions on their own. It is very likely such ideas would largely have developed independently of exposure.
@freemo You know what kind of idea i mean. There are different kinds.
@rastinza @freemo I do not wish for ideas to be censored, neither by good/bad categorization nor another one, and i am sure neither does freemo.
The comment you answered to is quite unspecific, and i must admit i don't follow my own thoughts here completely.
What i think might make sense is to think about calls to action, be it violence or hate. At some point here there might be a meaningful distinction. The general censorship of ideas is not what i meant, anyway. So in the end, we do agree on what you said.