I don't often bring up domain blocks, but if you're running your own server, you might want to block the domain 10minutepleroma.com, the potential for spam and abuse is immense.
I was accused of "fearmongering about abuse that doesn't exist" because apparently conceptually, the precedent of disposable e-mail providers is not enough. Well, here's how I learned about this tool!
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@Gargron Man, sorry that you have to deal with so much drama. Personally I understand your fears and while I might generally side with people who want to wait till a problem arises to fix it, well, the truth is I see no protections on the part of that service to be preventive at addressing the problem. If they had made some effort, any effort, to help minimize abuse I might be more likely to side with other people on this. But as it stands right now its hard for me to see how this wont be abused.
Since it is only a tech demo then there would be no harm in blocking it huh? Lets not forget, even if those who host the service have no ill will and have every intention of it being a tech demo and nothing more, that really doesnt change anything about the fact that it both can and has been used for spam/abuse and ban evasion. so its really not much of a counter argument either.
@freemo @Gargron Even then, blocking that tech demo site is a pretty stupid idea. I wouldn’t block your instance just because you had a few spam bots from there. I would only do that if you actively encouraged it.
Additionally, the source code is available to the public: https://gitlab.com/tribes-host/10minutepleroma
So, even if you tried to block all *.10minutepleroma.com subdomains, someone can just take the source code and start it on another domain. It’s not worth the stress and effort just because “Oh dear it could be used for spam”. If you are so concerned that you cannot sleep because 10-Minute Pleroma exists, consider trying to unplug the internet entirely (which of course, good luck with not getting backlashed at for it).
Not "Oh dear it could be used for spam".. it already has and is actively used for spam.
While normally I might agree with you on a normal instance that blocks shouldnt be the first answer especially if it is not sanctioned by the moderator of an instance... But in this case your response really makes no sense...
The instance is already being used to spam, there is no moderation for anyone to look to for solutions. It seems not just reasonable but responsible that if a instance is actively spam and there is no moderation to give any indication that there will be a solution from its care takers then blocking said instance is very much the expected response.
As you pointed it out, its a tech demo and not a real service, so what is it your even complaining or bothered about, who the hell cares if someone blocks a tech demo and it makes no sense you'd act all uppity about the fact that someone has.
Sure other people could of course replicate the site, and when that happens and you start getting spam from them too you are welcome to block them.
No one was triggered. Gargron saw an instance that was engaging in ban evasion that had no moderation to address the issue and banned them, he let people know. That was the end of the story. You are the only one who engaged in condescending language to then berate that decision and anyone who provided support to it.
@freemo @Gargron He’s acting up about a service because one user used it for a purpose you guys didn’t like. I used it. And you know what I used for? Some silly shitposts based on Eric Andre’s “Bird Up!” segments. Consider that maybe I’m condemning Gargron’s decision because it is absolute, blatant fearmongering at its finest. And maybe you’re too gullible to see through Gargron’s bullshit.
You are the only one going around calling people gulliable and attacking them for blocking a tech demo... say it slowly a... tech... demo.... It is not an instance, its purpose is to be a tech demo, no one is harmed by blocking it.
The fact that you or anyone could and have used it responsibly is irrelevant.
Going off on people because they reject packets from open spam relays is like going off on someone blocking spam calls on their phone.
Considering you are acting the way you are over how someone has responded to a tech demo means the whole "oh your gullible for listening to gargron over me" nonsense isnt going to go far.
@freemo @Gargron > The fact that you or anyone could and have used it responsibly is irrelevant.
Nice guilt-by-association, sweetheart.
gulliable
So, you’re so mad at me for disagreeing with you, you can’t even spell gullible properly.
Going off on people because they reject packets from open spam relays is like going off on someone blocking spam calls on their phone.
Love the false comparisons. You’re blocking a tech demo, which is just a waste of time and resources.
Nice guilt-by-association, sweetheart.
You need to work on those reading comprehension skills there buddy. No one said you were guilty by association. Nor does the quote you used make any sense. No one said anyone was guilty of anything.
So, you’re so mad at me
No, I am not mad at you. I think you are acting like a child in the way your speaking to people, but no I’m not mad at you.
You’re blocking a tech demo, which is just a waste of time and resources
Who cares, it takes about 3 seconds to block something. Far far less time and resources than you’ve already made me waste responding to you or that you wasted trolling people on this thread.
@freemo @Gargron Clearly, you aren’t willing to look further into the context of what 10minutepleroma.com is and why it was created by @alex What makes it so wrong that I’m calling you out on your bullshit?
Its a 10 minute tech demo, it states pretty clearly what its purpose is. I have absolutely no issue with Alex hosting the service or it existing, it serves the purpose of demoing pleroma and that's great.
But its nature is, as you already agreed, as a tech demo. Blocking it from production servers therefore does no harm and in no way prevents it from accomplishing its purpose.
@mk @Fullycaffeinated @Gargron @freemo Ok. So, is Mayonnaise an instrument?
Any personality flaws gargron may or may not have, which is a side discussion at best, doesnt really change how **you** will be viewed. You are acting like an 8 year old during this discussion, whether Gargron is immature or not does nothing to change that fact and therefore need not be addressed in this context.
@freemo @Gargron @alex The real 8 year old you should be considered about is Gargron. He has a constant pattern of not working with others on a common goal for the stupidest reasons. I’m glad you’re not gonna block 10minutepleroma.com. I just want you to understand why I absolutely disagree with Gargron’s blatant fearmongering.