@freemo @cjd @georgetakei if this is the bar for evil I'm surprised you think anyone is suitable for office at all :shrug: :anarchy:
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Its all a sliding scale... I dont think ive ever seen anyone run for president who visually mocked a disable person for being disabled.

The only person i can think of who has done anything remotely as racist as trump with public proof is biden...

Dontget me wrong most presidents have been evil too, but these are a unique sort of immorality that is not common in presidents... it also is a very small fraction of things they have done.

@cjd @georgetakei

@freemo @cjd @georgetakei Are you calling him evil because he does thing publicly that others do privately? Do you think that because we've never had video fed to us of a swamp creature being rude or crass that they never are? That seems naive to me.

@thatguyoverthere

I call him evil for the things he has done. If he does it publicly that just speaks the fact that he is OK with doing those evil things and doesnt feel being evil is something you should be ashamed of... so it may be marginally worse he doesnt hide it, but otherwise that has little effect on it.

@cjd @georgetakei

@freemo @cjd @georgetakei Like I said, I think the bar seems incredibly low, and I'd be surprised if you had this virtuous of a standard with everyone. It seems more likely you have been infected with brain worms.

@thatguyoverthere

Can you indicate any president that you know of that publicly mocked a cripple and/or explicitly told someone not to hire blacks?

If you know of anyone who wouldnt meet these criteria you think I would have supported I'm all ears.. cant think of one.

In fact I am extremely opposed to Biden for quite similar reasons, perhaps even less damning as far as prejudice goes.

@cjd @georgetakei

@freemo @cjd @georgetakei I still don't know how much I buy the "don't hire blacks" claim, but assuming it's true, if it was in the 60s or whatever I imagine it was pretty normal at the time, so trying to judge it by today's standards seems absurd.

I don't take offense on other people's behalf, so him mocking the journalist doesn't offend me. I get that it's not couth, but it's not evil. You'd be better to call him stupid than evil. Mocking someone who was probably talking shit and using the low hanging fruit (physical deformity) could be called dumb a lot easier than evil.

I still say if these are your worst examples of what makes him "evil" you have a very high standard. I'm surprised you can tolerate the fediverse which has far less self censorship than a presidential race. You'd be the kind of person to vote for someone like Trudeau who's evil acts actually hurt people but come with a nice smile and kind words.

@thatguyoverthere

> I still don't know how much I buy the "don't hire blacks" claim, but assuming it's true, if it was in the 60s or whatever I imagine it was pretty normal at the time, so trying to judge it by today's standards seems absurd.

Normality does not dictate morality. What is moral and right is judged by the people you hurt, not by the acceptance of others... Being normal to be evil in the 60s doesnt make less evil, it just means you have more people who will talk to you despite being evil.

> I don't take offense on other people's behalf, so him mocking the journalist doesn't offend me. I get that it's not couth, but it's not evil.

No one said anything about offense, his actions being offensive or not is not even being discussed. I said it was evil, not that I was offended or it was offensive.

> You'd be better to call him stupid than evil. Mocking someone who was probably talking shit and using the low hanging fruit (physical deformity) could be called dumb a lot easier than evil.

They arent mutually exclusive. While he is evil, he is also dumb.

> I still say if these are your worst examples of what makes him "evil" you have a very high standard. I'm surprised you can tolerate the fediverse which has far less self censorship than a presidential race. You'd be the kind of person to vote for someone like Trudeau who's evil acts actually hurt people but come with a nice smile and kind words.

No one said they were my worst examples... they just happen to be examples that were done in public in such obvious ways they are impossible deny. They are also more than sufficient to make it clear he is evil... thats all.

@cjd @georgetakei

It's all very telling, the straws that they grasp at. The Hunter Biden laptop contents are there, leaked months ago, for anyone willing to face it. Meanwhile, the witchhunt for Trump continues. It gets sadder every day. I would have never woken up if you chuckleheads had just left him alone. What put me over the edge was the Drumpf shit. I was just like seriously? That's all they've got on him? That, and a recording of him admitting that women consented to their crotches being grabbed because of his celebrity? Those were the smoking guns. I couldn't fucking believe it.
@olmitch @thatguyoverthere forget the dick pics the sms messages with the PLA are cool af
first I've heard about it, everyone was so fascinated by that man's cock.
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