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Posted by Andrew Cater ( )

I have had excellent colleagues both at my day job and, especially, in Debian over the last thirty-odd years. Several have attempted to give me good advice - others have been exemplars. People retire: sadly, people die. What impression do you want to leave behind when you leave here?

Belatedly, I've come to realise that obduracy, sheer bloody mindedness, force of will and obstinacy will only get you so far. The following began very much as a tongue in cheek private memo to myself a good few years ago. I showed it to a colleague who suggested at the time that I should share it to a wider audience.

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SOME ADVICE YOU MAY BENEFIT FROM
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Personal conduct

Never argue with someone you believe to be arguing idiotically - a dispassionate bystander may have difficulty telling who's who.
You can't make yourself seem reasonable by behaving unreasonably
It does not matter how correct your point of view is if you get people's backs up
They may all be #####, @@@@@, %%%% and ******* - saying so out loud doesn't help improve matters and may make you seem intemperate.

Working with others

Be the change you want to be and behave the way you want others to behave in order to achieve the desired outcome.
You can demolish someone's argument constructively and add weight to good points rather than tearing down their ideas and hard work and being ultra-critical and negative - no-one likes to be told "You know - you've got a REALLY ugly baby there"
It's easier to work with someone than to work against them and have to apologise repeatedly.
Even when you're outstanding and superlative, even you had to learn it all once. Be generous to help others learn: you shouldn't have to teach too many times if you teach correctly once and take time in doing so.

Getting the message across

Stop: think: write: review: (peer review if necessary): publish.
Clarity is all: just because you understand it doesn't mean anyone else will.
It does not matter how correct your point of view is if you put it across badly.
If you're giving advice: make sure it is:
Considered
Constructive
Correct as far as you can (and)
Refers to other people who may be able to help
Say thank you promptly if someone helps you and be prepared to give full credit where credit's due.

Work is like that

You may not know all the answers or even have the whole picture - consult, take advice - LISTEN TO THE ADVICE
Sometimes the right answer is not the immediately correct answer
Corollary: Sometimes the right answer for the business is not your suggested/preferred outcome
Corollary: Just because you can do it like that in the real world doesn't mean that you can do it that way inside the business. [This realisation is INTENSELY frustrating but you have to learn to deal with it]
DON'T ALWAYS DO IT YOURSELF - Attempt to fix the system, sometimes allow the corporate monster to fail - then do it yourself and fix it. It is always easier and tempting to work round the system and Just Flaming Do It but it doesn't solve problems in the longer term and may create more problems and ill-feeling than it solves.

[Worked out for Andy Cater for himself after many years of fighting the system as a misguided missile - though he will freely admit that he doesn't always follow them as often as he should :) ]


Posted by Andrew Cater - Monday 12 February 2024

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@violetmadder I didn't get a reply about what this is about and still would like one!

Human change first because mass "technology" is just another man-in-the-middle attack, Shitshow and tool.

👨 💻 :ablobdevil: :ablobdevil: 💻 :ablobdevil: 💻 :ablobdevil: :ablobdevil: 💻 👨

Technology as just another tool used by those than have mass control or regulation to result in the same bad-"work"-as-usual.

Humans are not perfect by far, but they need learning and preserving what computers ultimately cannot do as human contact, care and personal respect with arms and legs and heart etc.

👨 💻 :ablobdevil: :ablobdevil: 💻 :ablobdevil: 💻 :ablobdevil: :ablobdevil: 💻 👨

Humans are essentially the baseline for defeating cold 'systems' and hidden lines of code by using time better between people and day-to-day human intelligence incremented.

Human people as the incremented and let

be what we have now (which is more than enough).

#QOTO TIMELINE DELAY ON OWN PROFILE 

If I would post now I wouldn't see it on my own timeline until the weekend lol.

So the last post I see is 1+ day old. recently got worst to 3 days

:kaboom: TRY IT... Can you see my latest post or reply or your own recent post?
Click my name then "post and replies" for example and then try that on your own.

Previously you could post something and see it on your own timeline immediately...
Looool -

@poemproducer@systerserver.tnake friendown

Quick reply, depends on who we consider fascist.

But the lower levels of fascism which I think is everywhere (and overlooked by those asking) consider these examples and let me know what you think os my take on it as it's not always people in black boots or militia as we know today:

EXAMPLE
As example below and more prevalent at lower level + back by and other subsidiary :

➡️ I think my mum was fascist of various sorts:
- over-cleaning and too sterile
+ didn't know what to do otherwise with herself
- a bit of a reaction when challenged (like "measurably you did this 5 hours ago and almost not been here much ever since) but room for
+ and even aggressive or more provokable
+ were there (didn't know what else to do but take this position of etc / / / non
+ she was using spray guns (like real on people) but even the friendly is prossibele )
+ were bought by the trolley load and fund pollution and even with etc
+ toxic stuff created by SmithKleinBeecham etc which are things and to / nature and as
+ few other things that touches on similar which is more strictly backed /

Imagine now all the mums, dads paying for shit and doing shit like this over cleaning while paying for it / helping state profit... sounds much closer now with these list of points with keywords (hashtags)... A sloopy

@JasonPerseus Good point (1st line)

Terrible point (2nd line) It's too extreme and niche for an Arsonist to comment at all.
Better example needed like swear words or other conduct seem here often or a real case.

Systems with winner and loser = Bad 

Systems with winner and loser = Bad*

Systems with a few winners and many losers = Bad*

Systems with 1 winner and the rest nothing = Bad*

Systems asking users to gamble (pay to play over and over again) more than anything educational / sharing = Bad

...this includes money itself as it's a gamble game itself...

* Bad = needs changing

as vs ? 🎲 📈 📉 📊 ⌛ ⏱️ :kaboom:

* Enough Computers ? More Human Contact ! * 

The Linux Playstation People

It's regression when generations of heads are down coding, unable to do longer talks any more. They start to operate like limited computers more than caring people.

Humanity and it's real talk is the real reason why HUMAN PROGRESS does or does not happen. I know it's hard to see that as computers not fulfilling your goals but now more than ever we need real people and although things are relative to work etc but really when people are doing near-0 humanity all-the-while then there is no excuse (for not listening, improving people's way of talking, humanly able to chat and negotiate conversation, level up you're own thinking etc)

If only computers improve and NOT HUMANS or nothing much at the end of your work, then you're the one I mean.

Picture Text:
"But mum I'm not just playing games (Linux) wasting time - and not my fault human contact isn't getting better ".

like the Newer ?

Like not watching but watching YouTube all the time instead?

"...the fix is addressing the underlying real fear that there's no one coming to save you"

- Tarah Wheeler 🖖♦️ @Tarah
infosec.exchange/@Tarah/113399

WebRTC + Mastodon merged for simplest way + dedicated education pools for daily change because users (and their logic) are often the weak point and any "system" could be the users/admins that are humanly creating better culture as the main work directly themselves... ? 

@stevetex @evan I like the idea.

I've often called for WebRTC + Mastodon in similar style as what works and what we already have... so you said something similar with Matrix (instant jump in theinternetphonebooth.com/ etc is what I prefer / no account nothing 3 clicks)

And that we get improving ourselves through actual socialising on any dedicated scale ( ) and spearhead our own change through relatively of the same ethics and advices to more and more people... which I assume we all also in my experience and observation..

The "morality" or principles when we all get down to it I think are all similar *but only* up or down the ladder of priority - So we still basically want for the the same rungs on the ladder and even just finding what they hell we're doing... but we can join up with servers more dedicate to this than aimless stuff (somewhat) and do work there instead if people dedicate themselves to seed server or just group / test lab within existing. We have the man power / power of mankind.

The most basic tech wins also if it's really the people work / human work we are doing and have to continually work on (i,e, real change is to link better users / better people through other etc?)

And not dedicating people or servers to this just fuels another kind endless social perhaps, staying about the same in change or chances since population growth dilutes / as floods the pool of people again and again making for not much change.

Even more important it seems to seed better culture and provide alternative more-direct dedicated contact.

What do you think?

Appreciate your thoughts on that.

@stevetex I think people connecting to others that way or indeed their job or customers makes for a strong magnet to stay although yes it seems getting much worse but literally some people even kicked in the arse will come back (and I mean that politely) and in the same way a lot of us have weakness to say "why on earth would you use/buy money or shop from a bank able to reloan what it doesn't have diluting / reducing the value of all money?"

So people still kinda go default (as we did signing up our parents on google) until we realise what we're losing or stakes get high...

I'm interested in the actual social intelligence nowadays so people can slowly or quickly hard-fork themselves quite literally as the education makes sent and morality... daily or as one-hit ability to change... if interested let me know...

@stevetex I deleted my account the day he took over. I sleep well at night.

@stevetex @DemocracyMattersALot leaving Twitter cost me about a quarter of my annual income. I still damn well did.

@evan IMO, social networks are not the right medium for private, person-to-person conversations. It's reasonable to combine experiences for both social and private messaging in a single app/website, but the two shouldn't be implemented on common data infra. There's just too much room for privacy problems otherwise. My hope has been a combined ActivityPub+Matrix client, but I don't think anyone'sbuilt that yet.

@hallenbeck "The subtext I am picking up is a fear that Bluesky is leveraging VC funding to rapidly divide and conquer the social web. A sort of zero-sum protocol war funded by a company with a product."

There is an alternate frame of reference, that the BS team is just another group trying some new technical approaches, but with $36M in venture funding so far, it's hard too see that frame being valid.

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