People make fun of vi because it’s hard to get out, but it says right there: “esc : w q”. Whereas getting out of emacs apparently requires the gradual realization over the course of decades that all of your heroes are monsters and the ideological basis of the liberatory movements you championed in your youth are inherently flawed and futile exercises

This is a joke, but only because you still don’t actually get out of emacs after all that stuff

OK so it's fun to be snarky, but, I do legitimately think that Emacs has a lot of interesting ways to think about text and interactive programming, and new people *should* immerse themselves in it and learn it. The community is far less toxic than it once was. But it's hard to get excited about it and advocate for it when it's dragging around *so* much baggage, not least of which in the form of its founder

@glyph I’ve used emacs forever, and still do, though I feel like I’m becoming a relic year by year. Anyway, a project I want to do one day is create a website of text editing patterns. Things like copy and paste, transpose characters, transform rectangular regions, jump to location and back, etc. with examples of how to execute these operations in different editors. The patterns are more interesting than tools. People should use what works with their habits and preferences.

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@jkakar hasn't there forever been a book about the thinking behind Emacs-like editors, "The Craft of Text Editing" by Craig Finseth?

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