@ryan

which came first? which is more organic?

we have never had a president be so shitty to people nor was he like this before he decided to run. and of course then no Dems etc responded to him in that way then like you keep complaining about.

he's playing a heel and it's working. the question for you imo is whether we should elect politicians who choose to play that role. I guess I'd even say yes if they were somehow fixing everything and making public dialogue no longer necessary.

@wjmaggos That you think Trump is the first person worthy of disrespect to occupy the Oval Office is strong evidence of your illness.

@wjmaggos Coincidentally... That you think it is somehow worse for the country to have a President say mean things than it is for one to collapse our social safety nets by flooding the country with foreigners on the taxpayer dime... That is strong evidence of your cult membership.

@ryan

so it's bad that he's an asshole but you like the other stuff so you don't say anything? and that's true about lots of other stuff he does too? but I am supposed to speak up about bad Dems even more than I do and never vote for them even tho I might be doing a similar calculation but come to other conclusions?

oh wait, I forgot. only others are to be judged. you're the guy who basically only spouts one sided talking points but we shouldn't think of you as supporting anybody etc.

@wjmaggos Yeah, see my point about meandering word salad...

I know that you love to go back to that well of "Oh, but Ryan, you didn't say anything bad about Trump so you must be a Trump lover". It's part of your inherent need to avoid the message at all costs and only discuss the messenger.

I don't need to criticize Trump. Half of the Internet is constantly spewing hate about Trump's existence, and criticizing everything from his immigration policy to his word choice when rebuffing a disrespectful journalist. It's already been said. What could I possibly say that would add to that discussion?

When you add to the chorus, you look like a brainwashed madman. Think for yourself for ten seconds and say something I couldn't hear a hundred times over by accidentally clicking on a bsky link.

I'm not asking you to "speak up bad about Dems". I'm asking you to use some goddamned objectivity and original thought.

@ryan

please see what I've recently said about the Ukraine deal Trump is pushing and the conversation I had. that demonstrated objectivity and original thought imo. I'm sure you will say you didn't see that, yet feel no problem pronouncing about my failures.

how should one respond to somebody who does this? who doesn't let their ignorance (perhaps it's willful) prevent them from repeatedly defining you negatively. is that trolling?

[kinda like what @Darren is complaining about?]

@wjmaggos

> I'm sure you will say you didn't see that

Yeah, just like I was sure you'd claim to have said that while I was asleep or otherwise not tuned into the All-Maggos Channel.

@ryan @Darren @phifer

you follow me and regularly reply to me.

isn't it common courtesy to not talk about people as one thing when you don't have the knowledge to claim that? when there is clear evidence that they are not that? if somebody endlessly does that, how should the subject respond?

@wjmaggos

>if somebody endlessly does that, how should the subject respond?

THIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE but every time a communist they/them would call me a Nazi even tho I'm very clearly an Agorist, I'd close the browser and watch porn instead. But then it went mainstream.

Now I can't come until someone calls me a Nazi.

@ryan @Darren

@phifer @ryan @Darren

the [bad progressive person term] called me a [bad conservative person term] so I stopped the public conversation (that might have been useful to our civic understanding by those reading but never posting).

imo yea that's why we're here as a country and unable to elect a government that can fix anything. exactly what I might want if I was taking advantage of the current system.

I think Elon knows he is doing this. I think jerk/woke fedi are being "useful idiots".

@wjmaggos

Dude, they called me that because I didn't get the vaccine, not for supporting any particular policy, so I wasn't ABLE to converse any longer publicly - trying to explain I wasn't a Nazi and I was just refusing the vaccine was dangerous misinformation and I was banned. That's how I got HERE.

@ryan @Darren