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@ScientistRebellion This reminds me of people saying "so much for global warming" when it's cold.

@nonproductive @GottaLaff price controls don't really help anyone, though. (But her implementation of this probably won't end up doing much at all, so I'm not panicking yet.)

@samiamsam @kcarruthers I googled the leopards eat faces party as directed and found the Reddit. They're just as confused as I am about what nutjobs not liking Vance has to do with leopards eating faces.

Is the idea somehow that Fuentes has influence in the Republican party? Why do y'all react to evidence to the contrary by doubling down as if the thing you're reacting to isn't the opposite of what it really is?

@gentrifiedrose@mastodon.social @kcarruthers Fuentes married an asian woman?

@samiamsam @kcarruthers Wait what? The Republicans just elevated Vance to #2 and your takeaway is that they want to outlaw interracial marriage.

@ErickaSimone I don't know; it seems like American whites' voting record maybe tells a different story.

@tuban_muzuru @bojacobs No, a very disturbing number of people from a variety of countries willingly collaborated with Nazis to kill Jews.

Le Pen, for what it is worth, says "I condemn, without reservation, the collaborationist Vichy government."

@3dogcouch @emptywheel gell-mann amnesia: just remember it's about like this every day.

@12thRITS @emptywheel Now I wonder though is that even really about bikinis.

@kaffando @augieray "The severity of the episode is neither here, nor there." Check OP again. 😂

@kaffando @augieray pretty much every illness does that, as I said?

@augieray I think pretty much every illness takes a bit of a long term toll on you, this "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" thing was always false for any disease, IIUC.

I know covid *can* have long-term devastating consequences, but I don't understand where this idea that "there cannot be a mild infection" came from?

I and many people I know have had mild covid infections and seem totally fine. Mild as in: miserable fire a few days, etc, then as ~full a recovery as any cold/flu.

@toriver @mikenoe @GottaLaff FSB? I don't think they want Western Europe spending more on defense so they can prop up Ukraine?

You don't think the US will help Taiwan? I mean I hope it doesn't come to that, of course, and I suspect you might be right that China won't invade them if that's what you mean. But if they did I bet we would help; if only to secure a supply of semiconductors.

@toriver @mikenoe @GottaLaff well, one problem is people keep labeling them as pro-Russian, when actually I think the main thing here is people just don't want to be funding foreign wars. We've caused a lot of pain over the decades doing this, and I think lots of folks are wary of that.

I mean, I'm sure there are some russophiles or whatever, but that isn't, I think, the main thing going on. Point being: if you want voters to elect a congress willing to fund Ukraine, don't do that, instead the place to argue is about why we should fund a war – even a righteous cause – halfway around the world.

To me, I feel like the main thing is we need to either go all in and get it over with or stop funding altogether. The strategy we've taken of only giving Ukr. just enough to hold on seems designed to maximize death and suffering. Also Germany and the rest of Europe absolutely can and should take care of this, not us. Let us save up for Taiwan instead.

@JorisMeys @mikenoe @GottaLaff Republicans these days are isolationists, Dems are the warhawks.

@mikenoe @GottaLaff yeah, wondering this too: the main "funding" we do wrt. NATO is on our defense, which we of course do way more than any other country in NATO. Not really sure what this reduction in spending would do, at the end of the day.

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