#freemo

@freemo @invidious Noticed #freemo that the basic #questions of #money / #banks you might find it hard to answer. Try some of them in this post.
Never seem to have answered definitively ...

Do you have any writing on Banks ? (NOT just general #Capitalism or stuf we covered etc)

Questions are:

Do you find it hard to answer about banks / money?

Banks are big problem in life or something that's ok to use even if a bit unfair?

Is infinite debt, extraction, and power of banks to create money - good / good enough / not the problem ?

Do you agree most don't understand it so they cheat themselves?

Thanks for answering

@freemo I like the #poetry as well as the direct replies you have.

If you want to catch up on a few topics from before then check #freemo as I think some you haven't answered really but important for all life if it's based on things like #money / #banks

So whenever you want.
specifically if you #agree with:

"The man-made #money container (a hole in bucket #system)... is not really designed to help equalise or take care of people... but #maintain #unfairness (#power)... " (

A quick YES / NO / MAYBE

Would be good even before reading the post (which is directly linked below after initial answer please...)

https://qoto.org/@freeschool/114256831067242108

Thanks as always

#Wealth is the ladder to becoming poor in the future...

Explained a bit more:

Everything gets more #expensive with modern Capitali$m / Bank$ / $tate because:

ALL = for the getting / #extracting "more" money from people (even if it's for less service or even a bad one)

#Capitalism / #Banks / #State are not caring right

Mostly all uncaring #containers.

Wealth is just a mechanism to take more from people and for them to temporarily feel like they have something while it #exponentially gets more expensive and $tate / Banks / #Tech take full #ladder of control.

#FreeSchool #Quote
For the #caring people to see in the future (as if we don't see it now) #FreeMo @freemo to see the real #equation.

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More expensive = More cost to all
= More cost to keep "wealth" going...
(= increase cost to others)

= More #poor as you and others push up " #wealth " / rising prices / #greed / #power / #control ...etc!

...as the cost to each other
and by Bank$ and $tate goes up
for greed mostly (because costs force control / power in their favour)
Much like #cruelty to #animals.

Asking them to jump more for their food, away from #oppression, simple safety etc!

#TLDR;
Wealth is just a mechanism to take more from people and for them to temporarily feel like they have something while it #exponentially gets more expensive and $tate / Banks / #Tech take full #ladder of control.

@freemo @invidious In short, I still don't understand why #Freemo specifically and others don't invest in people more directly to get the best out of them or make the biggest change...

They obviously feel it / talk about it often enough and the related thoughts online which confirm that.

But I quote Freemo again using the symbol below.

The quote was part of this thread which jumps some topics and is not needed to read it all - the gist is this question why:

- Why #projects of more a better #ratio and #personal #development and #social movement are not done at all more personally when people obviously see and feel how useful it is to mentor people in various ways (not just all-in mentorship but dedicated #friendships #free #service etc as a related social movement (between people also and not just #Tech) ?

Specifically this quote below is what I mean (in a non-attacking and respected way) - but why Freemo and others perfectly suited who do believe just somehow *don't invest* in people or doing less the direct thing and go for more commercial tech etc things - it just PUZZLES ME since commercial things rarely increase the personal understanding or love or trust in others when it's mostly "just business" between them... and anyway they have done that so could do a bit of something else or hand it off to others as a test...

#Quote Freemo:
"I agree that to really improve #society it requires one on one #care, #help, and #attention between people.

The only thing to keep in mind is QOTO, and the greater #nonprofit around it, has a mission that has always been very STEM oriented. "

So you see paragraph 1 and 2 said in that same ARE quite paradoxical and even opposites cutting off possibility almost of something non-tech (of course the quote is a narrow quote) but also keep in mind I seen more and have asked Freemo but a branch-off or tangent of a another type with more people focus or orientation doesn't seem to happen naturally (even as a compliment to existing projects under my own measurable results). Why still no investment (Time, money, mind power..) same as anything tested since it would cost very little of each and just to see what happens under the QOTO 'stamp of approval' to give it the #attention it need to start and see what happens (again measurable by peoples reactions / experience) .

Please forget my longer writings in this thread (which is not needed),,,

Just on the basis of this text... why not try yourself or enable me / others, under your minor watch to allow something small-scale to use a bit of your backing and existing respect as a kickstarter to give it a chance?

Just see what happens and #grow 'something' (grow people / better mentality potentially etc)

Thanks as always #Freemo
and any #conscious people out there...

We do need something else other better social orientated / progressive #movements,... rather than same Tech or company #progression (#aggression)...

Lately I've had a few good posts about why #systems are failing and missing out the humans themselves. A few post titles are below and short points first.

TLDR:
User-to-User interaction and progress needed on any network else people stay weak
personal contact / match-making of some kind needed by individuals and dedicated ppl
encouraging closer relativity / mutuality and from that projects naturally...
mutual growing people is essential for wider society, skills and mindset
not just growing machines!
(that is the way to Matrix!)

Titles and links below:

1 #Social systems / #p2p fails when the #users themselves are not regularly doing the #trust work #peertopeer and constructively themselves not building that - just consuming media or just on the #Trump hashtag while leaders steal our #future.

Having "system" is not enough We need people or events to get together others together much like online seminars, circles or conferences help 'push' people together or at least see mutuality more clearly.

Post: https://qoto.org/@freeschool/113823713534235778

2 Real work is done ON the users and admin themselves (people change).

It's also NOT about expanding #google on everything or using #BigTech to expand without much mindset change - we need more non-#AWS stuff knowing later that US space is a big #problem / #compromised.

The people-to-people work is doing better stuff than just 'machines' as the main work, coding re-coding the same shit while people stay behind.

Communication daily rather than #massstorage #McDonalds...

Post: https://qoto.org/@freeschool/113823094138379891

3 Up to us not waiting for leaders or others forever...
Who's ready to build and build with trust? We need to work with those that can actually start and increase, and respond to reason better. Not waiting for history to repeat itself.

Post: https://qoto.org/@freeschool/113822893619105510

These post are so deliciously close to the Holy Grail of togetherness or solving things... saying what needs doing and growing people is the way forward.
Others growing others mean:
#informal apprenticeship /
#better #examples of each other etc.

But also practically giving ourselves more hints what to do each day or with each other (2 main branches) rather than default "job" and statesmen and middle-people in between who ultimately ruin / misuse it all.

My experience is that even fans or mutual appreciators don't seem to be able to get past a certain level and currently paranoia or "I'm busy" excuses happens (until people see how they can use others) but overall it's about how we all work for each other by building each other up and eventually doing more, especially as all the while communication improves (#1 solution to many things I think).

It's about motivation and enjoyment to from that and then suddenly people are not as busy because they make it part of their life.

As usual I write more which I believe Freemo helps shorten for people.

I see the potential from other admins (who generally are more clever / multi-talented / able to multi-task) and users (who can
rrbe better or are clever in-the-waiting) to not miss the obvious point of social improvement but being / living in more of a two-way action and more 'manually' and deliberately doing it each day - it's not any system

Beyond messaging, Automatic things systems cannot do what human need after ability to contact and see each other's profile and work.

So even if it's looking a 1 profile a week more closely and trying to work with them / help or having a broader spectrum of open-access with other... Then slowly but surely real work (people change) happens.

From #KeyboardWarriors to #Techies to #Carers all people are already doing something we might want to be part of or integrate / bridge together - and as a mix of people we're superior to just floating individual having mostly non-dedicated parts of life and one-way / one-message interaction as a way to get away from outside life that I think all this post helps get better inside and out.

"Improving user-to-user interaction" is the main work.

We can do as a main part of 'working' socially which traditionally isn't what today's #Capitalist "jobs" do..

(because "jobs" are more narrow fields / definitions / contracts of work towards profit mainly and at the cost of everything else almost along the way - including emptying the human they use like a battery at the end).

Deliberately-socially messaging has benefits which I think people themselves/admins are not doing because others are not doing it (and once people do it I believe they will or can be tested!). I believe people love to see progress in themselves and others and doing it gives others the power / potential to help fix things instead of stay victim (which is what you see a lot of posts about, powerless).

Everything in their life can be fixed but has to come from this slowly but surely approach while improving friendship or respect (even from afar, lower level to high and vice-versa).

The people work is social change and like human resources we have it largely unused online as I see it. So while it's not for everyone here
THERE IS PLENTY OF PEOPLE

and from those 'peer-to-peer- type post titles mentioned at the start I'd like to ask #Freemo about this more as I see him as a potential Captain of the football team because basically he's solid enough already which we all need as leader or moderator and so often on the mark.

He has a sense of morality when even if you wouldn't agree you'd thank him for being far clearer, less emotionally capsizing, and more transparent than the other 'leaders' we see currently everywhere.

So #Freemo does seem to do this work often anyway even if it's a small way and I feel people leave better from conversation and do come back again too (supply and demand!...) so why not this as a part-time thing or helping me to do it with his advice?

Points welcome even if it seems too dreamy... it seems totally doable even if slow-burn...

Cheers #Freemo and here's to you in general!

And I know you have #CleverThis - this is not ignoring that, but a I think you also need a non-company version as "Ask Freemo" / "Free School" (#AskFreemo / #FreeSchool) as not everyone likes to play that #state games of first jumping into a company but can contribute or get there eventually from other safer or less embedded ways...

Better than us spending too much time on hashtags watching #musk #trump etc getting sucked into their attention and spreading their shit words instead of good ones...

Ok that's it - just sending for now, with your help will re-edit / shorten if you can guide a bit / re-say it / cut it down (even if not totally doing it now - just helps me find more meaning and people who obvious see other people as the main 'problem' to solve / improve #mutually from fault of bad people but also the good not working on making something for good in *this* people-to-people way...

#Capitalism means...
"markets are free, meaning everyone has the same amount of power in the market, no one can game the system"

#Quote by @freemo
Post: https://qoto.org/@freemo/113768931586330894

My comment:
Typically "Capitalism" seems to be said in public to mean "money rules and everyone is driven by greed",
... when in reality it means something else according to #Freemo that I'm exploring / currently trying to re-learn.

Initially I think it's both things or many things since there is so much nuance of Capitalism and something evolving even from the basic definition. It seems it's not just 1 solid dictionary or Wikipedia definition - it's many pages! Again many nuances or ways doesn't seem to help although in a static moment away from today I get parts of it

FEELINGS VS. LOGIC...
I have massive #feelings and crossed wires about "Capitalism" and below I list some of those feelings bullet pointed with

"Capitalism" is like my brain in a skipping CD or Vinyl Record that stays in the same track whenever you try play it or talk about a topic... I might understand some logic but can't agree with much of it's perception or 'who-knows-who' that made it (many).

Looking at the page "Free-Market Capitalism" page makes me think to myself:

"What do I actually agree with here? Anything?
Answer: Not much! Have to find something I can agree with!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_market

Check how you feel compared to how I feel (disclaimer: I might still not 'get it' but this is how I feel)...

Selling / Re-selling the planet ? Na.

That's like an illegal operation or incompatible way of looking it it sometimes. What's a beautiful bird worth?
For people "trying" to convert to numbers (deliberately fucking things like money-changer or innocently trying to manage things) it's totally like difference sciences and false measurement (even without assuming #money and f-ing #banks are just to tax and skim off people behind their backs and re-loan / dilute the money behind our backs too, devaluing it at their benefit!). WTF!
More numbers / more debt?

Owning things - should anyone own things more than apportioning it to the next person / generation - ok a piece of paper for saying that - but a buying complicated pieces of paper as a program or scheme to enrich the system again (taz) / cheating people out of shelter and the future eventually? (No! Too risky even to consider)

Pricing people labour / Future children priced? Can it ever be fair? Can't we just accept people and almost hope they do for the love of things?

Despite me not have whole answer for this either - just not selling our self either falsely/arbitrarily and trying to falsely value all different arts which banks and state have no care about (dying artists constantly). Either as numbers or anything more than caring for it and allowing the education of that... ?
And the 10 chickens / children have feelings and not just the number 10 to kill and use from them throw away.
Much more than numbers please. Giving life AND love (something often not mentioned in growing life.) Selling is mainly like a empty vehicle to constantly find something to empty and fill again without care and encourages lack of quality and more physical moving things more than a meta look.
What about love as the process too - why not that?

"competitive markets", a price system?
Doesn't it end all the same bad way and never stays how it was intended to start?

"exchange of rights (cf. ownership) of services and goods" kind of ok but can't we keep things more often rather than commodifying it to commercialise it - just nice little homes and small economy with big serving them in it's own small / less chemical crap ways.

"Markets" has so much variation / too much - renders this whole definition of free-market useless on first look / too open to interpretation and change.

Economics - a terrible word perhaps from the perspective of who is taking care of the land / planet and people (government) who's job is really care of itself and use people as batteries which are disposable ? Governments that took the land but don't really share it to future generations and just want more bad and even increasingly looking to take more land !
(how it got to this point was by stealing or conquering it so why continue that? Who wants to forever re-sell it for more and more never-ending problems with it, not letting people actually inherit it)

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OK THAT'S ENOUGH
...FOR NOW!
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SO YEAH I'm fighting off the same Capitalism feeling that I get tempted back into think, like a skipping CD or Vinyl Record that stays in the same track whenever you try play it or talk about a topic...
Not fun and slipping into the same feeling for what seems 100% an over-flexible definition for "#FreeMarket Capitalism" which of course encourages people to take any part they want from it - since it's ALL OF IT!!

If we are to use words indeed to think they mean 1-10 things that would be great, just not #meaning 100 things will any #nuances you like!!!

(I will continue learning today and seems to come up often with many people on this hashtag!)