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Jakiś czas temu używaliśmy #Loomio -> https://www.loomio.com
Ma opcję głosowań anonimowych:
https://help.loomio.com/en/user_manual/polls/starting_proposals/index.html
Selfhosting (open source) albo ich cloud, mają serwery w EU.
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www.loomio.comAnother service we maintain - https://codema.in needs to renew its domain as well. Anyone likes to sponsor the domain rewal cost of 800 INR ?
codema.in is an instance of loomio collaborative decision making tool used by @fsci , @prav , @piratesin #debphoshfund etc and open for other communities to join. It comes with many kinds of polls integrated into a forum like interface.
Hey fedi-friends I am looking for a tool for massively open consensus building, discussion, and decision making.
I imagine it would be something like a combination of:
- Loomio
- Kialo
- Lemmy
The key would be that the solution has moderation tools, and open participation.
@admin Connaissez-vous une instance #Mastodon gérée par des membres francophones ou des personnes localisées en France, dont le financement et la gouvernance s'inspirent de celle de "social.coop" (https://social.coop/ #SocialCoop) ?
Autrement dit, une instance financée par ses utilisateurs, avec un financement transparent via #OpenCollective et des décisions prises collectivement sur #Loomio
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Mastodon hosted on social.coop@ntnsndr Do you know a Mastodon #instance managed by #French members whose financing and governance are inspired by that of “social.coop” (#SocialCoop) ?
In other words, an instance funded by its users, with transparent financing via #OpenCollective and decisions taken collectively on #Loomio
In online #governance discussion, not enough space IMHO is given to the benefit in git-based environments of separating 'issues' & 'pull requests', aka 'problems' and 'solutions'.
What we often get (e.g. on #Loomio) is "Vote on adding a widget to solve a wombat"
The debate then splits: is the wombat a problem?; is the widget a good fix?; does the wording of the vote handle this complexity? Issues/PRs splits this debate & allow for multiple fixes to the same problem to be explored in parallel.
Also, in the situation where:
- the definition of 'voting member' was the subscribed child, with one or both parents acting as proxy as appropriate, and...
- the decision-making space was an online platform such as #Loomio where the parent(s) would need to be the account holder(s), rather than IRL meetings...
... how would voting practically work?
“Fostering deliberation would require platforms that encourage long-term and in-depth interaction with arguments and less 'communicative plenty'“
https://algorithmwatch.org/en/mastodon-public-sphere/
Fair comment. I do find that conversations on Discourse forums or Loomio groups are more likely to go deep, and lead to covergent outcomes, then even the most constructive chats here. I haven't used Pol.is, but I've read impressive things about its by #g0v for vTaiwan.
The open-source social network gained millions of new…
AlgorithmWatch@Brendanjones @dajb the short answer is a mix of Loomio vote types. Best bet is to look at the Threads discussion which contains three votes around it (multiple choice, ranked vote and a yes/no with hidden outcome): https://www.loomio.com/d/AZcJK6y2/discussion-support-the-anti-meta-fedi-pact (there's a separate discussion about how #Loomio threads can get too long!).
The discussion on limiting threads.net has now spawned a discussion about limiting #Loomio threads.
I am not making this up!
I am however being very misleading in my presentation
https://www.loomio.com/d/TvlY4wPJ/discussion-appropriate-length-for-loomio-threads
A number of us have encountered technical difficulties…
www.loomio.comReally cool to have close to 100 people already voting on the #SocialCoop instance policy vis-a-vis Threads. We use #Loomio for these kinds of decisions. There's always room for improvement, but I'm just glad we have participatory processes for policies that affect all users of the server.
@silentashes
thanks for sharing your feedback!
I think we are on the same page. While our instance is in our bootstrapping phase, we chose discord for backend communication because some of us were familiar with setting up a community server and it was easy to manage things there while we figured out what would be our within-instance communication strategy after our processes (governance, rules, CoC) were fairly established.
We currently self-host our decision making system #loomio (https://www.loomio.com/) which is #FLOSS under #AGPL license (https://github.com/loomio/loomio)
We have been discussing how to avoid having to use too many platforms (and having to create different accounts for each) to cooperatively govern the instance because those can become bottlenecks for instance-level participation in important discussions. We are discussing a way to self-host our own forum #lemmy (relevant thread: https://neuromatch.social/@manisha/110641946898243726) but we are volunteers and so our progress has been according to our limited bandwidths (we are trying to get funding though, so pointers to funding sources would be appreciated -- other than the crowd-sourcing ones like OpenCollective, Patreon, etc, we are aware that several #MastoAdmin use that). And how fast we make progress also depends on how much support we can get from other volunteers from our #neuromatchstodon instance to help out with this stuff.
We are slowly but surely working towards using open-source tools and self-hosting and making it easier for instance members to participate in discussions (which is why we let them know to reply to our OP here if they don't want to go to discord).
We currently run a fork of #glitch which allows local-only posts. I had tested that but there was a tiny bug there (e.g. https://neuromatch.social/@manisha/109753892418948128) that I haven't had the time to look into. But that's another option worth considering for instance-only discussions with caveats like this -> replies to local-only posts can become public and then the thread may seem weird for those who can't see the OP.
Given the cooperative structure that we are establishing, we will likely not move to #DiscourseSoftware if we can't have all of our instance member switch there easily (but I don't know the details fully so this is just going off of what you mentioned)
Thank you for pointing us to #Mobilizon. Have you tried it or know someone who has? I'd love to hear how the experience has been there, especially if it uses #ActivityPub
sorry for this #LongPost :)
cc @socialwg
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www.loomio.comYep les masto!
Bon, j'ai besoin de conseils:
Pour une #asso de quartier, on cherche des outils web. J'ai pensé à #matrix pour le chat, et #loomio pour le forum/vote.
Ça m'emmerde un peu, parce que si le quartier d'à côté veut faire pareil, on pourra pas se fédérer entre nous (par loomio), c'est naze!
J'ai cherché un peu parmi le #fediverse, j'ai testé #friendica, mais ça remplace pas vraiment loomio. Peut-être que #kbin ou #lemmy peut faire le café ?
Si vous avez d'autres pistes, je prends !
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Anyone can now #selfhost #Loomio with @cloudron #cloudron #selfhosting
Wczorajsza dyskusja o tym, jakie narzędzie #Fediwersum/#OpenSource może zastąpić grupy FB (https://101010.pl/@otwartezrodlo/109944483234036270) uświadomiła mi, że najważniejszym pytaniem na samym początku nie są sprawy techniczne (funkcjonalność, dojrzałość, dostępność itd.), ale... jakie potrzeby mają realizować ludzie za pomocą tego narzędzia. To od tego pytania powinno się zacząć, mówiąc o alternatywach do Facebooka.
Bo jakie potrzeby ludzie załatwiają za pomocą FB? Oprócz oczywistych, skupię się na tych najważniejszych:
- potrzeba przynależności
- potrzeba akceptacji
- potrzeba uznania, docenienia
- potrzeba stymulacji, pobudzenia
- potrzeba wspólnoty, więzi
- potrzeba uwagi, bycia zauważanym
- potrzeba współpracy
- potrzeba partnerstwa
- potrzeba szczerości
- potrzeba opieki
- potrzeba zabawy, humoru
- potrzeba inspiracji
- potrzeba ...
Grupy FB, jako konkretny kanał komunikacji, załatwiają ludziom któreś z tych potrzeb (każdemu trochę inne). Myśląc o zastąpieniu grup FB jakimś narzędziem #Fedi/Open Source, warto zdecydować, które z tych potrzeb chcemy zapewniać w największym stopniu. Inne #potrzeby zapewni #forum internetowe #Discourse, inne czat #Matrix, a inne #Mastodon czy Friendica, a inne #Nextcloud.
Czyli trzeba zacząć od rozmów z ludźmi o tym, czego potrzebują. Wtedy - bazując na swojej wiedzy o narzędziach internetowych - można dobrać najtrafniejsze narzędzie.
To oczywiste - ale potrzebowałem parę godzin refleksji, żeby do tego dojść!
#Facebook #bezFecebooka - #Hometown #Glitchsoc #Calckey #Misskey #Friendica #Bonfire #Hubzilla #Soapbox #Loomio #Mobilizon #GroupsIO #Framalistes #FramaSoft
Dobrzy ludzie! Proszę o poradę w sprawie Mastodona/Fediwersum.…
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www.loomio.com@DavidBlue @fediversereport Social.Coop uses #Loomio, but the same functionality would be helpful... I submitted a feature request to their GitHub! https://github.com/loomio/loomio/issues/9527
My co-op uses Loomio for governance and a Mastodon…
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