Gary "grim" Kramlich

Greetings Programs!!

We're back at it tonight working towards @pidgin 3.0 Experimental 4! We've got some, hopefully fun stuff going on tonight, so come on by and check it out!!

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

@dushman @dalai depends.

I had to block some asshole because they refused to acknowledge their shitty bridging destroyed threading and doubled-down on that garbage!

I mean. #Pidgin, #Gajim, #HootSuite and #NUVI don't demand me to setup yet another account to have working multi-protocol support. (Okay, the latter two do but that's to access their interface as they are #SaaS-only #WebApps !)

Kevin Karhan :verified:

I mean, these ain't like in the old days where a few Megabytes got you #Pidgin and other Multi-Protocol Clients of the old days where everyone had to implement bespoke, custom and incompatible and *often completely undocumented, proprietary * protocols like #ICQ, #AIM, #SIPE, etc.

Nowadays all these do have some kind of #WebApp or Web Interface one can just login (because *none of them do proper #E2EE with #SelfCustody of all the keys!) so this should be way easier these days: All they do is do HTTP(S) GET/POST so the most critical part is to attain credentials like a #Login #cookie and to basically run a console on i.e. #Firefox to reverse-engineer the #API...

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Kevin Karhan :verified:

One thing that really pisses me off personally is the #regression in terms of #Messenger #Apps.

My personal distaste and dislike for #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #services like #Signal ¹, #Telegram, #Discord ², #WhatsApp, #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, etc. aside:

WHY is there no #CrossProvider #Messenger to handle that shite?
WHY does everyone of these shitty providers think people want to download their #bloated #WebApp that takes up triple digit Megabytes if not entire Gigabytes and will gobble up all the #RAM and #CPU they can??

This problem ain't new and already got solved for corporate social media ages ago! (Not to mention actually good messengers!)

And no, bridges don't count!
I mean API 0 - style access because obviously none of the platforms will allow, endorse or support such an endeavour and actively fight the developers and users !

So yeah, consider this a call for a @gajim / #Gajim or @pidgin / #Pidgin for garbage platforms!

Cuz back in the day we had way worse messengers yet people actually made #AIM, #ICQ, #MSN, #QQ, #IRC & #XMPP work just fine from one single "phat" client!
Can we please get that back?

#api0 #Enshittification

Jul 16, 2025, 11:08 · · · 4 · 0
srmorita

@d1cor interesante lo de #profanity y #pidgin. #Dino consumiendo mucha RAM, será por que está programado en #vala?

Diego Córdoba 🇦🇷

@debacle Gracias! En Kali estoy en #X11 también, con #xfce. Gajim v2.1.1.1-2.

Es verdad, no es lo más rápido que hay, y consume bastante memoria... acabo de lanzar #gajim, #pidgin, #dino, y #profanity, y los consumos de memoria residente son muy dispares:

* Gajim: 309M
* Dino: 507M
* Pidgin: 129M
* Profanity: 45M

Me quedo con Profanity por mi obsesión con el bajo consumo de RAM 😉

Diego Córdoba 🇦🇷

Joder, qué mal que amdan algunas cosas de #gajim en #kalilinux... parece que no se lleva bien con #xfce

Abro una ventana como el About o las preferencias, y responde muy lento, a veces no responde, y para que se dibuje el contenido, tengo que mover la ventana princpal de Gajim.

Será cosa del #xfce? del compositor?

Sigo con #pidgin con ganas de pasarme a #profanity :thinkTux:

#xmpp #gnu #linux

Gary "grim" Kramlich

Greetings Programs!! We're back at it starting a brand new cycle towards @pidgin 3.0 Experimental 4!! When are the experimental versions over? Once we've stabilized a whole lot more API and that doesn't happen without putting in the work which is what we're doing tonight! Come on by!!

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Gary "grim" Kramlich

Greetings Programs!! It's release day for @pidgin 3.0 Experimental 3!! It's not quite the release I was hoping for, but that's okay, that just means the next one will be better! (or something...) Come on by as we release it out to the wild!!

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Diego Córdoba 🇦🇷

@rikylinux_ar @elmau

Actualización: no se por qué la sala de fediverso@conference.conversations.im anda en algunos clientes de #xmpp nada más.

Puedo entrar desde #gajim y desde #pidgin, pero no desde #thunderbird ni desde #conversations (android).

Es raro, a las demás salas sí puedo entrar sin drama desde cualquier cliente xmpp 🤔

Tendrá alguna setting particular la sala?

Gary "grim" Kramlich

Greetings Programs! We're back tonight in some regard. We're down to just about 10 days until @pidgin 3.0 Experimental 3 and we need to figure out what we can sneak in at the last minute! Come on by!!

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Zash

I vaguely remember when MSN Messenger started with #ads, which drove me to other clients like #Pidgin and exploring #XMPP and #SelfHosting

So, I wish all disgruntled #Whatsapp users a happy journey, whatever direction they may go!