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The Coding Language Caught in DOGE's Crosshairs

@clive speaks to Brooke Gladstone about #COBOL and manages to touch upon the gendered roles of coding and tag #GraceHopper and #FlowMatic on his way to explaining why “modernizing” old code on this scale cannot be done in a few months, why old code works well, and why #AI won’t necessarily help them do it well. #OnTheMedia

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@linuxnews Letzte Woche mit einem Kunden gesprochen, arbeitet in einer Krankenkasse. Sind dabei von #Cobol auf #Java "umzustellen". Hat sich die Deutsche Bank schon von OS/2 verabschiedet? Oder: Welcher historische Zeichensatz wird in Überweisungen verwendet?

Man will es gar nicht alles wissen.
#alterSack

yianiris

What's the deal with "tech" industry, aren't there other industries? Is it because it is the only industry left in EU/UK/US while manufacturing has moved? Or because it is fashionable more profitable?

Because it pays well at the moment? So did #cobol programming and stick welding

@JennyList

IT News

Porting COBOL Code and the Trouble With Ditching Domain Specific Languages - Whenever the topic is raised in popular media about porting a codebase written in ... - hackaday.com/2025/04/16/portin #softwaredevelopment #featured #interest #gnucobol #fortran #cobol

Matthew Martin

Mind blown. You can run IBM #zos on a PC with a personal edition license.

ibm.com/docs/en/zdt/14.2.x?top

And it has IBM #COBOL inside it. I don't understand why this was so hard for me to find. Looks like I need a new machine (linux host, 1tb drive space and then enough oomph to run a VM)

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ZD&T Personal Edition enables a single user to run…

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Elizabeth K. Joseph

Just watched an #IBMZDay session about the #COBOL Upgrade Advisor for z/OS (CUAZ), and it reminded me that the feelings people have about COBOL being old are so weird.

There are new Enterprise COBOL compilers being released on a regular basis, with new features. And new (first released in 2021, and continually improving) tools like CUAZ to help with upgrades!

Oh, and COBOL is still really good at what it does.

Knowledge Zone

#OnThisDay Venus_de_Milo, the famous #Greek #Sculpture, was discovered (1820) by a peasant.

Grace Hopper led development of #COBOL (1959).

Birth Anniversary of American #Biochemist Melvin Calvin (1911) - most famed for discovering the Calvin cycle along with Andrew Benson and James Bassham, for which he was awarded the 1961 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.

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@jp
My first job out of college was reading #COBOL sysdumps and patching other programmers' mistakes at 3am so overnight processing could complete.

Hey #AI I'd be happy to teach your machine how to do that.

ThePdog

Doge mucking up SSA software p2

The fact that a once reliable website now regularly crashes also indicates that these Doge techies don't really understand the basics of website configuration and server needs. I feel sorry for anyone who is not already on Social Security. Trying to start your benefits now sounds like it will be very rough.

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2/2

#SocialSecurity #Doge #cobol #website #collapse

ThePdog

Doge mucking up SSA software

This is certainly disheartening. I was extremely concerned about Doge trying to modify or rewriting COBOL software. AI isn't going to be much help because bugs will arise and AI, which created the bug, will not be able to fix it without knowledgeable assistance. I don't think COBOL has been taught in decades.

1/2

#SocialSecurity #Doge #cobol #website #collapse

GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

Oh, and I checked - #COBOL developers don’t actually get paid super highly 😢

GreenSkyOverMe (Monika)

Banks and Social Security are not using #COBOL because it’s so great, but because it’s so hard to migrate to something else.

They should and do migrate away … very slowly and carefully.

(I‘m in banking.)

I don’t dislike COBOL. I program daily in #ABAP, which looks like a COBOL dialect. I don’t mind verbosity, verbosity increases readability and debuggability. No devs? Train some. But COBOL developers tell me it has serious limitations. It’s just old.

Elizabeth K. Joseph

The #IBMZDay schedule for April 8th is now up! community.ibm.com/zsystems/eve

I worked on the Developer Journey 🧑‍💻 which takes you through everything from technical sessions related to the latest #mainframe hardware to direct application of both open source and proprietary tooling that can help you develop code more effectively, and even a session around getting that #COBOL 6 compiler upgrade done (it has some really cool features) ✨

The event is virtual and free, reg: ibm.biz/ibmzday2025-se

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Benjamin Carr, Ph.D. 👨🏻‍💻🧬

What could possibly go wrong? #DOGE to rapidly rebuild #SocialSecurity codebase.
A safe and proper rewrite should take years not months.
The project organized by #Musk lieutenant #SteveDavis, multiple sources who were not given permission to talktell WIRED, and aims to migrate all #SSA systems off #COBOL, one of the first common business-oriented programming languages, and onto a more modern replacement like #Java within a scheduled tight timeframe of a few months.
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What could possibly go wrong? DOGE to rapidly rebuild Social Security codebase.

A safe and proper rewrite should take years not months.

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