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@blaine

Yes Indeed, I concur, and just mentioned this sort of thing to @aral last night, and further, posing the question as to whether the brand leader is migrating towards a #mastobook or #facetodon type of model akin to that of the #deprecated, privacy disrespecting, #legacy #monolithic #silo business model.

But not mastodon - that's where I diverge from your suggestion. And funny get me wrong either; I'm not saying it shouldn't include mastodon as well. It's just that there's no such thing as a mastodon network - it's the #Fediverse, and there's a whole heckuva lot more than just mastodon.

At this point I'm not even completely confident calling @darius 's #Hometown *fork* mastodon - he's done (and is doing) an amazing job and but just that, but he's taken a smidget of observation and deduction along with an ear to the ground with respect to the wishes of his community and the administrators that have sites adopted the Fediverse platform that he's created from what many other devs are privately calling an obsolete platform.

Or at least, it's easy to say that he's breathed me life into the lackluster predecessor of Hometown.

When mastodon itself can only #grep local data for results, and then you create a #hashtag following feature - it serves little to no use on either single user #smallweb or smaller community based instances - i.e., it's virtually worthless IMO, and #Fedilab itself was just explaining yesterday their superior festure that obviated that mastodon feature.

In fact, @Gled introduced several improvements (especially with respect to search capabilities that other Fediverse servers have been light-years ahead of mastodon on) that began to seriously overshadow msstodon at the time, and when, out of frustration he shut down his "Mastodo" fork, he took the time to offer an assessment of the state of mastodon at the time, recommending that #Administrators and #self_hosters switch from that platform to #Pleroma instead - because it, "is a better implementation", and after a bit of testing, I can easily say the same thing about Hometown - it's s better implementation, by far, and the dev is approachable and attentive too.

https://github.com/gled-rs/mastodo

So smaller, single user (#MicroBlogPub?) and small community based (#Epicyon?) Fediverse server platforms like #Friendica, #Soapbox, #Quanta, #Mitra, #Calckey, and Hometown that are either self-hosted or hosted by inexpensive turnkey SaaS providers is ultimately where the directional pressure and influence should be at this time - considering we've met and crossed a critical mass threshold during the last three months.

Well that's my 2¢, I hope that helps

All the best!

#tallship



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RT: https://mastodon.social/users/blaine/statuses/109700865228378185

@PonyPanda

There's a great landing page I boosted a couple of days ago that' #user_friendly. You can look that up. Heck, it might even be ethot that made it. I just can't remember lolz.

Anyway, stats are readily available and simple enough to find in the Fediverse, made even easier by a few #metrics sites like Fediverse . Network, which sadly, went offline recently along with the #Pleroma site of its maintainer. I asked Gargron about that and he said he doesn't know why, so if anyone can shed some light

Anyway, Fediverse servers are self reporting, and most do not opt out. More info on that is here:
https://info.pleroma.cloud/federation.html

I tend to disagree with much of what the well meaning and well informed folks in this thread have been postulating, and frankly, having used and administered email systems since before we introduced #IP (replacing #NCP on 01 January 1983), especially the well intended simile that Alex and ethot tried to draw with SMTP.

But suffice it to mention that #Fediverse servers only require a single A or AAAA RR to function, while #SMTP also needs an MX RR to effectively participate (leaving out #DKIM, #SPF, and other #TXT records, etc).

The *forgone* conclusion that was mentioned, however, is supported by the fact that #Jon_Postel did assign it official port numbers in his nom de guerre role as #IANA - which is actually a real thing now, and not just a role account (The Evil #ICANN, but I digress). Of course, this didn't happen independent of requests for comment - again, this to too was Jon, as he was also the #RFC maintainer.


I don't like to think of #Fediverse as 'alternative' - it's just a #decentralized #disruptor network that I enjoy using. If it isn't someone else's cup of tea then that's kewl too. #Faceplant #Twatter, and #InstaSPAM don't float my boat.

Some here have inferred that #Fedi is a thing, maybe the next thing, but not the thing after that which will replace it. Well, I don't look at things like #Mastodon or #Friendica or #Zap or #Pixelfed or #Funkwhale or #GNUSocial as Fediverse - they're just platforms, social in this case, that "are capable" of #federating with the Fediverse... The Fediverse not actually being about people at all, but rather, #machines that accommodate the exchange of #communication and #information over (primarily) the ActivityPub and #OStatus protocols, among a could of others that can be bridged in by server platforms that also speak other protocols such as Diaspora.

Thinking that Mastodon and Pleroma servers are the backbone of the Fediverse is just plain "wrong think". What I see happening actually, are future transfigurations whereby other, more capable protocols obviate #ActivityPub much in the same way that ActivityPub has mostly supplanted OStatus - server platforms that wish to remain relevant and viable will integrate newer protocols eventually deprecating the older ones as they become less viable, and newer server platforms arrive all the time - some are successful, and some aren't. In fact, Pleroma started out as merely a front end, and #Misskey enjoys a large footprint in the Fediverse as well.

Now, since this thread is really about #people, and not #machinery, and the platforms with their associated instances that might best serve any specific special interest, I'd better get back #on_topic lolz...

The graphic earlier, of #instances where folks love to hate and paint themselves into a corner (as you were so illustrious in pointing out in your blockbot comment on Twatter), well I think that's a wonderful thing. Why? Because those fuckers know who they are, what they like, and what they want to see; and that my friend, is what the #social aspect of the Fediverse is all about.

Go and open a fresh account at Twatter. You won't see Jack shit until you start following accounts. Same thing in the Fediverse. And it was the same thing at #gplus, there's always a bit of a learning curve when you first set down the lunar lander on the surface of a moon.

Now, there is the notion of, on Mastodon-esque platforms, a #feed that is really fricken' #noisy, and which includes all of the instances with that your instance currently #federates with, as well as a feed that shows traffic of all the #actor accounts that everyone in your instance follows, and a feed that includes those that you alone follow. So this curve doesn't need to be so steep - but noisy is a technical term, to put it socially it's a cacophany that includes love, hate, tech, anime, frogs (you said that's your thing?), politico, hobbies, crafts, art - you name it.

The filtering mechanisms available to the user enable the participant to finely home the precise kind of view into the Fediverse that one is desirous of. It takes time, and a bit of patience. You didn't build your #InstaSPAM stream in a day either.

In a nutshell, from an operational standpoint, it doesn't really matter which instance that someone joins, although it does make the curve less steep if you deploy an instance that serves the needs of your particular **community**.

The word #community is of paramount significance here, since joining an instance where folks are hostile to your proclivities will likely result in a less than enjoyable experience, to say the least, in these months of #censorship and #cancel_culture. But this too shall pass. It's just a fad where communities of people are trying to form and decide how #inclusive or #exclusionary those folks wish to be with others in the world - and that is okay too. Hey, some people just ain't happy unless they're miserable, right?

So the Fediverse affords them this customized #social_network. Again, this is a good thing coz it's like Burger King:

"Hold the pickles hold the lettuce special orders don't upset us all we ask is that you let us serve it your way."

Perhaps your best bet is to choose a server platform that fits your style of usage and launch your own instance. I often hear people retort that it's too #complicated (there are hosting providers), that it's too #expensive (you can do this in your own home in an rPi or and old win95 beater box collecting dust in your garage), or that they're too #lazy (kewl, just get an account anywhere in the Fediverse and figure it out or stay with Faceplant and Twatter). In the end, the most important thing to remember is that you will indeed, and undoubtedly, "Have it your way (at #Burger_King)."

Finally, I'd like to mention GAB. That started of as a #mononolithic_silo, like Parler and Faceplant, and when it became apparent that their dev team couldn't cut the mustard they switched to Mastodon with all of the out of the box benefits that it came with. Good for them! Who gives a shit?

And they've since defederated from the rest of the Fediverse and you know what? Good for them! Who gives a shit?

The important takeaway here is that they've always known that they can have it their way. That's what the Fediverse is socially, and they've also demonstrated how it works functionally. They're now an #intraFedi, rather than an #interFedi, and I for one am glad that those folks got to leverage Fediverse technology where their own empowerment is concerned - it demonstrated that anyone can create a more attractive #social_fabric for themselves that exists in a #decentralized #FOSS based, #privacy_respecting model, independent from and exclusive of the contemporary corporate #monolithic silos that package you up as product with a cute little green bow tied arround wrapping paper that says, "Happy Birthday Jesus"... umm, wait. I mean, "Happy Birthday Mark Zuckerberg".

So yeah, use that link to the jason data and all you need to do is just change the hostname to glean several different kinds of stats about instances - purpose/use case, membership, traffic, filtering and federating info, etc.

There are other actual sites that track this data but none as responsive and comprehensive as Fediverse . Network is, or maybe was. Actual stats across all of the different protocols was rather comprehensive.

Here's a couple of others for you to share and do please *boost* this post if you found anything valuable in what I've covered here:

https://fediverse.party/en/portal/servers

https://the-federation.info/Pleroma

I hope that helps! :)



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#tallship #Vger I can haz #Cheezburgerz?

@Oblivia @ethot @screamingfrog

@dansup @heluecht Why #Laravel ? I have so much bad memories in it like the #monolithic #Eloquent model and hard maintenance of relationships and tons of unnecessary SQL queries (yes, I do look into such things). Better use #Doctrine2 with its entities or rewrite it from scratch (if you can). Laravel in my view is just a fixed #CodeIgniter nothing really improved then.