@yappari @Lee_in_Iowa

I'm not sure where you are hearing that "all" of our solutions revolve around EVs. It's not what I hear.

What I hear is the need for rapid electrification coupled with rapid transition to renewables and agricultural moves away from monoculture & monoculture fed meat and better urban planning, etc.

EVs are an important portion of electrification, but way far from the end all and be all.

@joeinwynnewood @yappari @Lee_in_Iowa

I get where Yappari's coming from. Every upper-middle class suburbanite that I know definitely believes that if they get an electric car and slap some solar panels on their roof that they can keep doing whatever else they like and will have done their part to save the planet. It must be the messaging that's getting through.

@BE @yappari @Lee_in_Iowa
That seems rather different than conversations about solutions. Any expectation that personal behavior by itself will address the problem is pretty much fantasy, so how suburbanites behave today while most important technologies are at the start of their s curves is not particularly meaningful.

@joeinwynnewood @yappari @Lee_in_Iowa

Sure, I think what I'm saying is that the actual conversation has yet to begin for the vast majority of people in the US.

@BE @yappari @Lee_in_Iowa
That is a very generational dynamic. The under 30 set gets it - a big part of their heavily Democratic voting.
Middle age folks are getting there, my boomer cohort sucks.
As I replied to Yappari, it's very much an AND scenario. Recognize & spread the news of the very good/fast progress being made AND push for more; spread the news!
Tell the story of fantastic induction stoves with batteries! that reduce childhood asthma & maybe even dementia are around the corner!

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@joeinwynnewood @yappari @Lee_in_Iowa

I think we're pretty close on what we're saying here. I just think you're a bit more optimistic than I am that anything positive will happen.

Where I'll push back a little is that the under 30 set gets it. At least in the south I'd bump that down closer to 20. My wife's been a high school teacher for ~15 years now and 15 years ago all of the 15-18 year olds pushed back against climate change being taught in schools and teachers would be told to tread lightly on the subject and not push it. As recently as 5 years ago it was still a sizable chunk that would argue it wasn't real in class. Now they all accept it.

@BE @yappari @Lee_in_Iowa
Yeah, the south is a challenge for a whole host of things.

At least the kids even there are moving in the right direction!

And God bless your wife, I made it for all of 4 years teaching HS Math then Physics before moving on (which I knew I would do; not constitutionally built for a lifetime as a teacher).

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