Great majprity of the press is billionaire owned, billionaires only have excuses, they want to hear facts compared to their excuses or they fire Editors.
Firing editors doesnt sound like an attack on reporters and reporting, but its the most effective, because people dont care about editors, they care about reporters, dont want them fired.
But firing the editor upsets no one, and terrifies reporters.
@Paulos_the_fog and everyday
@Paulos_the_fog the same everywhere😕
@Paulos_the_fog any American media chat show addicted to fake balance
@Paulos_the_fog A lot of mainstream media does this, and it's less about balance and more about pampering the audience that refuses to accept a different opinion
@Paulos_the_fog Not just the BBC, unfortunately.
The US major media went out of their way to as maga in diners next to corn fields about their latest psychotic reasoning.
It is harmful to both sides but they did it for years and CNN made it their current policy, per Licht. Go figure.
@Paulos_the_fog Faux News: We will only talk to idiots.
Unfortunately, it's not just the BBC.
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And it only encourages all the fellow idiots to use quotation marks around expert everytime from that point on.
@Paulos_the_fog not just the BBC. Seen CNN lately??
@Paulos_the_fog If you’re reading the Murdoch press they just interview the idiot.
Not a fan of dissing the BBC - it’s ours for a start.
We will miss it when it’s been destroyed by the same people we’re fighting with.
Suit yourself!
@Paulos_the_fog If you say so.👍
@Robsterthermidor @Paulos_the_fog The BBC is a fantastic institution we should be proud of. Unfortunately the BBC News department is shockingly pro-establishment and needs a major revamp.
@david_orr @Paulos_the_fog I’m not sure I follow. What is pro-establishment and how would that compare for example with converage from the Murdoch press, The Mail or Telegraph? Seems to me BBC has its problems, but not on the same scale as the challenges we face from those I just mentioned.
@Robsterthermidor @Paulos_the_fog The obvious pro-establishment lines are seen, for example, in the “preserve the union at all cost” reporting and the fawning support shown towards the monarchy. I’m happy to say I don’t read the newspapers you mention.
@david_orr @Paulos_the_fog very interesting, thanks. I guess I must be a bit pro-establishment based on the given example. I don’t recall the BBC no platforming separatists like Alex Salmond (remember him?😂) or unionist-separatists like Nigel Farage. I could be wrong, it’s a subjective perception on my part. I guess this is part of the problem with these debates, BBC is held to a higher standard than those newspapers, who have little obligation of balance or impartiality.
I'd say that you are extremely pro-establishment and therefore blind to what is obvious compared to the 700+ positive responses I have had to my original post.
You only have to watch a very few news and current affairs programmes to see that interviewees of the left are hounded mercilessly and constantly interrupted whereas government interviewees are accorded a dignified silence and allowed to pour forth a stream of known lies without the least objection from the fawning so called BBC journalists!
Perhaps you should consider opening your eyes and ears a tiny bit - maybe?
@Paulos_the_fog @david_orr 700+ can’t be wrong, wasn’t Brexit decided on less?
I was very surprised by the number of people who decided it chimed with their view of the BBC. I wondered if my view of the BBC bias was an individual one but perhaps not!
@Paulos_the_fog 700+ you said, that’s a lot. I blame the parlous state of education.
@Robsterthermidor @Paulos_the_fog This has crept in over the last 10 or so years of deliberate underfunding, I think. It feels as though they're doing everything the lazy way because they can't afford to do it properly any more.
The result is attacks on the BBC for the lower quality, which can be used to justify further cuts so the quality deteriorates more.
@timtfj @Paulos_the_fog what you say is very likely, and there’s been a strategy from the tory right to fill management positions with their apparatchiks. Once we #GTTO the organisation can be rebalanced rather than cancelled. I hope we get an inquiry into Brexit from a new govt, the findings will change them for the better again. I think getting the tory thugs out will improve the quality - Mrs Brown & her boys are the products of their perception of the public.
@Paulos_the_fog See also: CNN
@Paulos_the_fog This is why we suffered Brexit. I’ll always remember when BBC interviewed Nigel Lawson for an ‘alternative’ opinion on climate change.
@Paulos_the_fog And every day!
@Paulos_the_fog Good to go with both sides... 🤦
@Paulos_the_fog As well as CNN, NY Times, CBS, etc.
@Paulos_the_fog Spot On!
When I see USA TV, it is obvious to anyone but a fool, that it is owned by someone and the 'news' is biased by the owner. But historically the #BBC was above that and remained strictly non-partisan. But now the BBC is little better than the appalling quality of CNN.
BBC start with the idiot, and sometimes let an actual expert get a word in.
@Paulos_the_fog the result of the BBC being told off for being too neutral about ten years ago
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Journalists cannot always tell the difference.
@Paulos_the_fog Oh, has Julia Hartley-Brewer been on?
@Paulos_the_fog Has me laughing (and crying). Because it's basically true.
@Paulos_the_fog they usually have two idiots and give the expert scant time because the idiots are more ‘entertaining’ it’s not called the fools lantern without merit…… The radio has to compete.
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I would have thought that the NYTimes