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@kinyutaka @LevZadov @ekes @justpeachy @ItsTrainingCatsAndDogs@kolektiva.social here's another metaphor: suppose there's a guy who rapes, kills, and kidnaps babies. Then the cops get into a shootout trying to arrest that guy. Someone is killed by a stray bullet.

At this point it's pretty reasonable to thoroughly investigate if the cops are taking necessary precautions to avoid that sort of thing, while at the same time recognizing that it's probably not possible to completely avoid any risk of that and still arrest the rapist baby murderer.

FWIW some people like Jordan Peterson seem to think IDF shouldn't even try to use force here; like in the metaphor don't arrest the guy at all.

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