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@oliver_schafeld "more like the other thing, though"... This is, again, the "Trump does some thing that Nazis also did" argument?

Like: So-and-so does X, Nazis did X, therefore so-and-so is evil!

If X is something harmless/beneficial, then this is a silly argument:
* The Nazis discouraged smoking
* The Nazis used certain political rhetoric like "let's make our country great!"
* The Nazis had nice innovations in film
* The Nazis had military parades

If X is something harmful, then it's a good argument:
* The Nazis committed one of the worst genocides ever
* The Nazis started expansionist wars

Conservatives sometimes make this argument, too: "you know who else banned guns? the Nazis!"

This is objectively terrible. reductio ad Hitlerum.

Trump hasn't started any wars, let alone expansionist or genocidal ones.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump shouldn't call people vermin, of course, because that's like the lowest level on Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement and it makes him look stupid.

When someone talks like a fascist it would seem a healthy response not to wait like he acts like one too.

The fascists started dehumanizing people verbally long before the large scale atrocities started. They attempted a coup ten years before they came to power.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hal

It's a choice whether to learn from history or normalize it.

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