@pluralistic The biggest "commons" I know of is the ocean, and boy do I feel there is a tragedy there. If the ocean can be maintained by either way, to me that way has demonstrated its viability.

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@shanie @pluralistic Great point; as we're more and more able to do real harm to the ocean and its ecosystems, we more and more need some kind of solution to managing this "commons". Ostrom's research might have some insight there, but I'm not sure how making a big fuss about the term "tragedy of the commons" helps anything.

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