This is the problem with giving even reputable agencies and institutions your private data: They will give it to Google in secret: gcaptain.com/us-navy-opens-med

@ocdtrekkie Implying Google isn't reputable. They're one of the safest vaults to put someone's data in.

@mtomczak Google is one of the most pervasively evil entities on the face of the globe. The biggest threat your privacy could ever face is in charge of that vault.

@ocdtrekkie I was just mentioning to someone earlier today: lost my insurance card. As you know, that can be a pretty significant risk to health in the US.

I'd taken a photo of it, but no idea when.

Google photo searched for "insurance card" and it was right there.

All that creep powers magic that keeps me sane, so I'm gonna be a hard sell on "most evil." I was there for the engineers revolting when management even considered AI for drones. I was there to see the internal fights on figuring out what ethics looks like in a tech space that never existed before. And yeah, I bore witness to a lot of less-than-perfect.

But dude... There are actual defense contractors out there. I have no idea where you put the "evil" bar, but it must encompass a pretty wide swath if Google is over it.

@mtomczak All of the people who protested or stood against Google's actions were fired or pushed out. At least most defense contractors support a cause, Google is just as happy to sell to Russia as the US, and only withdrew because they couldn't transfer the funds out.

@ocdtrekkie I literally know people currently at Google, so your "all of" assertions are falling on deaf ears here.

Google got hit with a fine by Russia for letting prohibited Ukraine news and information discrediting the Russian military on its services, particularly YouTube.

I follow your content and generally like it, but on the Google topic you're far off-base, no offense intended.

@mtomczak No offense intended, but give it a few more years free from the cult tactics they used on employees and see if you still hold the same position. And people working at Google today still are deeply unethical people who have put personal wealth ahead of ethics and human rights.

@ocdtrekkie It's already been years.

I think I'd have to get a better idea of what you define as unethical (besides, broadly, pursuing their mission statement "To organize the world's information and make it university accessible and useful") to have any thoughts on whether they're current staff is unethical. More often than not, ethics at their scale is hard to pin down (especially given how many mutually-exclusive templates there are at global scale).

I mean, if your assertion is simply "no company can be that big and ethical at the same time," agree to disagree.

@mtomczak I mean, it's generally true that for a company to be that profitable, it is almost certainly doing something wrong. But no, Google is still owned and run by it's sexually-harassing founders, a pile of executives who set a new bar for inappropriate workplace conduct, and a it has actually managed to act illegally in nearly every single business vertical in every jurisdiction it operates, and it pays off a wide variety of politicians and media outlets to spin otherwise.

@mtomczak If you work at Google, you have decided to help Sergey "the point of hiring female employees is ****ing them" Brin make more money for his yacht. And everyone who ever worked for him is going to have to square that with their conscience some day.

@mtomczak I mean, Google's former head of *Legal* had an affair with a subordinate, got her pregnant, abandoned his kid, and had her transferred out of her role (and eventually pushed out of the company) when it became public. I believe he got a wonderful severance package too.

@ocdtrekkie Agreed. Happy to solicit suggestions for better. But a lot of those suggestions won't offer the opportunity to make the world better Google's scale does, sadly.

@mtomczak I conclusively believe Google makes the world a worse place. It has not only caused the mass harm that I've described, but also has massively stifled innovation. Countless promising technologies have been squashed by acquisitions and shutdowns chiefly concerned with preventing superior technology from leading.

@ocdtrekkie There's no doubt Google buys a lot of companies.

Not sure that's the same as stifling innovation (also not convinced Silicon Valley's idea of "innovation" is a qualitative good by itself). Google tends to be able to bring scale to companies with neat ideas but without the tools to do them with the work needed for scale, accessibility or (most importantly) security.

I wonder how many data breaches Google has inadvertently prevented by buying a company that was storing user data in plain-text databases.

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