Was looking at #Matrix again this morning, and feel kinda disappointed that it became more of a niche platform among geeks, whereas Discord and Slack won out as the mainstream communication tools.

Maybe I have drunk too much #fediverse kool-aid, but these days centralised commercial social platforms just erk me.

@bcshort It's really just easier to use Discord for most people: the features communities want are readily available, whereas achieving the same in Matrix requires technical knowledge & hosting capabilities. Furthermore, Matrix is terrible in marketing itself - like, matrix.org and element.io really isn't that informative to potential users...

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But there are many tech/software/web/etc communities on Discord that would be more than capable to use officially for their project.

Even Mastodon instances admins including Gargron meet on Discord.

@post @bcshort But it is still much easier (with easy moderation and with no monetary cost) to run a large Discord chat. For example, just moderating a large Matrix chat requires you to host a Mjolnir on your own homeserver (or pay for EMS). In practice, large technical projects that do use Matrix (eg. Mozilla, KDE, Arch Linux) more or less offload their responsibilities (both hosting and moderation) to EMS instead...

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