The response was to "no supplement ever offered any benefit whatsoever" which even 100 years ago was untrue. It's a very modern take, and a very first world take.
My point is, and this is the last I'll say about it, that many people on the planet today could benefit greatly from supplementation, but they are unlikely to be the ones to get it.
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Actually this was the response
"I am unaware of any supplement ever being found to prolong life,or offer any benefit whatsoever, other than to the seller of the silver bullet , but am open to credible evidence to the contrary ."
And I am still unaware of any evidence to support your claim and see no point in discussion without fact or evidence to support claims made.
OK, I'll bite.
Lifespan is a population metric, not individual.
https://ourworldindata.org/life-expectancy-how-is-it-calculated-and-how-should-it-be-interpreted
In the last 100 years, in the US alone, the average life expectancy has gone up over 20 years.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1040079/life-expectancy-united-states-all-time/
Even in modern times nutrient deficiency is a thing. It's only within the last few decades that we've started more Vitamin A supplementation to stop night blindness in children.
https://ourworldindata.org/micronutrient-deficiency
I would encourage you to read A Short History of Nutritional Science: Part 1, 2 and 3
https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/133/3/638/4688006?login=false
https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/133/3/638/4688006?login=false
https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/133/10/3023/4687555
Scurvy, infantile scurvy, goiter and cretinism, anemia, beriberi, rickets, night blindness and xerophthalmia, and pellagra are all discussed, including increasing intake of things like Folic acid during pregnancy.
See also, Deficiency Diseases
https://www.blatner.com/adam/consctransf/historyofmedicine/5-deficiencydiseases/5-deficdis.html
All of these things lowered the life expectancy and figuring them out and supplementing increased the life expectancy.
So, modern first world life. Does the population as a whole need supplementation? No.
But, older people, pregnant people, people with certain digestive diseases and people on certain medications do.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/nutrition/the-truth-about-nutrient-deficiencies
In that context we're talking people who have access to good food and know what to do with it. That's a lot less people than you probably think it is.
But, my point that I've made multiple times is that the people who *need* supplementation in order to live a long and health life are the least likely to receive it.
There have been multiple studies showing that prison inmates have less violent behavior when given vitamins and this extends to the population as a whole. There's fewer violent crimes when people have all of the nutrients that they need!
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0011128721989073
None of this is new science and google is your friend. I could go on and on, but I am officially done with the subject. Happy reading and googling.
Oh well. I knew better than to try to provide the evidence you demanded.
I was replying to your condescending post, but, you deleted it and probably blocked me, so, just for completeness' sake...
The benefit of supplements is clearly spelled out in my response. Beginning with the definition of lifespan, of which we were discussing, and then giving the historical record and detailing many problems that were solved with supplements. I then discussed who needs supplements today, even in a wealthy first world country, and explained how that all increases life expectancy.
Literally, line by line, answering your request:
I am unaware of any supplement ever being found to prolong life,or offer any benefit whatsoever, other than to the seller of the silver bullet , but am open to credible evidence to the contrary.
In doing so you insulted me, questioned whether or not I was really a scientist, and then probably blocked me...all because you didn't really want to read what I'd taken the time to send to you. You replied within 7 minutes when I'd given you probably hours of reading.
