@pixplz @originlbookgirl @Mathlover @Kat @Billius27 I thought that Trump lovers like you never left Twitter! Biden has more class and intelligence than any of you Trump apologists.
@Teddy103 @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Kat @Billius27 not a trump lover. He was a horrible president. Being critical of Biden’s poor response to the pandemic doesn’t make me a trump supporter. On this one issue, vivid response, both have been horrifically terrible. I’m a teacher with primary immune deficiency. I can’t convey strongly enough the stress both have caused me in my workplace with their prioritization of politics and business interests over lives
@Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Kat @Billius27 so what has Biden done that was so wrong?
@Teddy103 @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Kat @Billius27 what did he do right regarding COVID? What did trump do that biden didn’t also do as badly or worse on Covid?
@Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Kat @Billius27 Biden took the virus seriously, he didn't make fun of it and talk about bleach and lights ! Are you really serious? What should he have done that he didn't do?
@pixplz @Teddy103 @originlbookgirl @Kat @Billius27 oh, I see he thinks that most students didn’t get sick if they were vaccinated. Sadly not the case. Most of
My students have had COVID 2-4 or more times already. I have multiple students who went from being quite good at high school mathematics to unable to calculate simple one digit addition/subtraction. Memory and concentration issues after COVID are common.
@Mathlover @pixplz @Teddy103 @originlbookgirl@mastodon.online @Kat @Billius27@mstdn.ca
Yup, my wife tells me about her high school science kids and it's the same idea. Multiple have gone from really good students to unable to pass a quiz, or even discuss science, after COVID. She says they just can't find the words anymore.
@BE @Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Kat @Billius27 And some feel that Biden is more to blame than Trump, which I think is crazy, what do you think?
@Teddy103 @BE @Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Billius27 I’m with you on this. Everything the orange monster touches is a disaster. Biden is not blameless or perfect but…c’mon now.
@Kat @BE @Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Billius27 yes, I really don't get the criticism of Biden, the pandemic was in full force by the time Biden took office and he did the best he could given the advice he was given, he wasn't an ignoramous the way Trump was!
@Teddy103 @Kat @Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl@mastodon.online @Billius27@mstdn.ca
There's plenty of blame to go around. Why even bother trying to assign a certain percent to TFG and a certain percent to Biden? At this stage of the pandemic I'm more of a "here we are, so let's deal with it" person. Let history decide who blew it worse.
@BE @Kat @Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Billius27 I'm really reacting to those who think Biden did worse than Trump and as a fairly aware person I just don't get it! Trump is a fool and Biden did the best he could I think!
@Teddy103 @Kat @Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl@mastodon.online @Billius27@mstdn.ca
That's fair and I'm honestly focused on the situation as it stands, but, I can certainly understand that the *disappointment* is greater in Biden. I don't think, for instance, he's done the best he could do overall. I do believe he did the best he could without spending any political capital on it.
I'm going to stop outside of my scientific realm here and give a legal example because I read your bio. Be gentle if I say something horribly, legally incorrect :)
So, for example, when the mask mandates were shot down in the courts in early 2022 it was a political decision, not a scientific one, to not even attempt to get a stay on the decision. They waited 9 months, until January 2023, after the 2022 election cycle, to ask the courts to reverse the order. Biden promised to follow the science and if anyone was advising him from the science side of things that pursuing that further was a bad decision, then they were giving him unscientific advice.
Anyway, for me, personally, that's about as far as I dig into it. I'm focused on the science and how we dig ourselves out of this situation as it stands today. 10 or 20 years from now it'll look different through a historical lens if we're around to look at it.
@Teddy103 @Kat @Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl@mastodon.online @Billius27@mstdn.ca
You're changing the topic. This was your question:
"And some feel that Biden is more to blame than Trump, which I think is crazy, what do you think?"
That said, I disagree with your premise entirely here. I think the Dobbs decision and Republican leaning polls that exaggerated their polling numbers heading into the election account for 100% of the change between a "red wave" and whatever it is that happened. I also don't think that mask mandates are unpopular, as numerous polls have said.
All of that said....I don't care about the politics of it. I really don't, and so I'm not going to argue the politics of it. I say that as someone who holds a political science degree. I don't vote for people to win the next election. I vote for them to make the world a better place and do what they said they. would when they campaigned the first time.
Also, I think you kind of proved my point a bit further....it never even made it to the Supreme Court. It was a federal court that overturned the mask mandates. They didn't even fight it at *that* level.
Anyway, thanks for the discussion!
@BE @Kat @Mathlover @pixplz @originlbookgirl @Billius27 the election that took place in November was suppose to be an overwhelming victory for the Republicans and it was only a miracle that the Dems didn't lose the senate as well as the house! I think these decisions are more complicated than we think and I'm not so sure that the Dems didn't fight the SC's decision because they didn't want to add to their expected defeat.