A Concerned Scientist @BE@qoto.org
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Yes, absolutely. There were a lot of politicians, in particular, who were eager to push it as the end of the pandemic. Thankfully there were people out there saying it wouldn't stop the spread early on. My wife, as a teacher, got her first shot in the first round they were given out, but she didn't stop being cautious at that point as so many others did.
@carlos @SuperTwaddle @noyes @steven
You never clear EBV, for example, and it can cause all sorts of issues. It certainly wouldn't be the first virus to hide in places in your body where the immune system has a harder time reaching, so I don't think it's a strong claim at all, personally.
@carlos @SuperTwaddle @noyes @steven
There's been quite a bit of research into viral persistence in people with long COVID. Is that the smoking gun? There's, for obvious reason, quite a bit less research into "Person who gets COVID and seems fine two weeks later." You, generally, neither have autopsy evidence available nor do those people generally keep coming in for repeated testing.
Just a sampling:
https://www.bmj.com/content/377/bmj.o1555
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1379777/v2
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.06.14.22276401v1.full.pdf
https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/could-coronavirus-persist-safe-havens-body
https://reports.mountsinai.org/article/gi2022-_6_evolution-of-antibody-immunity-in-the-bowel
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2022.939989/full
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9057012/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.08.07.22278520v1.full
If it's Boebert or Gohmert, they're probably actually dumb, but there's some real grey areas with some of them.
We have a game in our house. We take a quote from some politician and we all guess "Dumb? Or just playing dumb?"
That's absolutely fair, but, he can read a study without misrepresenting it if he wanted to. He just doesn't want to. They *want* you to think they're dumb and underestimate them.
His MD from Harvard would insinuate that he is capable, sadly. It's a choice he's made, just like Ted Cruz and his Harvard law degree, or John Kennedy pretending to be a dumb redneck with his Oxford education. Don't underestimate them.
Imagine a world in which everyone was told "The VE for this will drop to 36% after 120 days" instead of "Vaxx and relax!"
@carlos @SuperTwaddle @noyes @steven
We have autopsy data of people who supposedly "cleared" their COVID infection showing it is still in their bodies, just not necessarily where it started. We also have studies showing it moving to pretty much every part of your body.
So let me kind of turn that question on its head. Do we have any evidence of most people fully clearing SARS-CoV-2 from their bodies?
It's early, so perhaps we will but I'm not aware of a study showing most people without COVID anywhere in their body. I think it's much more likely that no one's actually clearing it fully.
What we do know for sure is that it's found in parts of your body where it's theoretically "hiding" from your immune system for at least months after an infection. With an average re-infection period of every 8 months I feel like it's pretty clear people aren't clearing it from their body before adding more, on average.
I actually know someone who was recently put on an antiviral after EBV reactivation. I'm guessing like most things in this realm it's all up to your doctor as to whether they tell you it's in your head, you have anxiety, or if they try to do something about it, but if you have a good doctor it might be worth a try.
Yeah, further up north the mask situation is pretty bleak. I'd say probably around 14 months since I've seen a single, properly worn mask(not that I get out all that often here).
I also had mono in my early 20's and COVID can reawaken the EBV still in your system. Much like COVID, probably, you never actually clear the virus from your body completely. If you continue to have issues doctors can test for this.
I know it's long, but I'd encourage you to read through the comments to the post as this has been pretty thoroughly hashed out.
It's ostensibly an anti-KKK bill that in pre-pandemic times was used against people wearing the type of mask we're talking about here.
https://www.anapsid.org/cnd/mcs/maskcodes.html
It's in the FL state statutes here:
https://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2011/876.12
Thank you for still wearing a mask! In my part of FL I haven't seen one(except a cloth chin diaper this past week) in longer than I can remember.
Absolutely. Thankfully I can count that one "probable" positive as my only one and I do intend to keep it that way as long as I possibly can.
Hang in there!
Yes, absolutely in the wrong way!
For #LongCovidAwarenessDay I hope everyone focuses on the people who are *really* struggling, and that's not me. I am, however, going to share a story about how easy it is to miss what's going on in your own life.
I've read hundreds, maybe thousands, of COVID studies and articles. I've gone deeply into the science and I've learned an awful lot over the last three years. I'm going to guess that I know more about COVID and long COVID than 99% of people on the planet, which really isn't all that hard given how little the average person knows...if they even know anything.
I probably had COVID in the very early days, before there were even tests invented yet. More than likely I'll never know for sure. It's very likely, though.
I struggled quite a bit in 2020, with no real idea what was going on at all, and by 2021, thankfully, I considered myself to be over the day to day issues. However, I have had a few things that lingered.
Now, I want to make clear again that I manage just fine in my daily life, unlike so many others.
So, in a Telehealth appointment recently I'm describing some things; purple feet when sitting, chest pains despite heart testing being fine, occasional "skipping" of a beat or a fluttering feeling in my heart(thankfully way less than 2020, they can be really scary)...and the woman I'm talking with starts to list some other things. Shaking and sweating, dizzy spells and I'm nodding along. Yes. Occasional fatigue. Yeah, sure, but I'm getting older. Happens, right?
She, literally, starts snickering. I look at her quizzically, I imagine, and she tells me "You taught me about this and you aren't recognizing it in yourself."
I am still suffering some symptoms of POTS. I check my Apple Watch heart rate data....and wouldn't you know it, every time I go from laying to standing my heart rate jumps 40 beats.
I have spent countless hours over the last 3 years teaching people about things *just like this* and I never looked at myself. Now I have a name, beyond just long COVID, that I can look at, learn, and work on.
Anyway, please boost people sharing info about #LongCovidAwarenessDay and whatnot today and be kind except to the continuing minimizers and deniers. The whole world's going through this together.
Probably just the WHO being overly cautious. People have gotten really weird about kids and masks...at least here in the US.
@auscandoc @eeyam @novid @Billius27@mstdn.ca
I haven't ever done a deep dive on the studies around this, but I think 2 is pretty widely accepted. I see things like this frequently:
"Many studies have shown that masks can be safely worn by children over age 2, even if they have a health condition. Concerns about masks being unsafe have been disproven. Masks will not block oxygen from getting into a child’s lungs, and they don't affect learning and development."
I give you tons of credit for trying to do the right thing, at least. The whole thing's, obviously, a giant mess at this point.
I definitely haven't figured it out. I just avoid them at all possible costs at this point.
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