@EVoCeO Yeah well. Stefan is mostly known for his "interesting" claims surrounding IQ and race. 😄 He is often described as a white-nationalist. I would take him and his host with a grain of salt.

Shiva has a lot in common with Judy from the last video. Claimed some controversial stuff about genetically modified food which did not pass the scientific filter and still did tour around states.

Yeah vaccination is a business, but I don't see what is wrong with that. If viruses exist and vaccines are effective then we need to fund research around them and buy them. Maybe I don't understand what are you trying to say by that.

@vnarek I tend to focus on the message not the messenger and add it to the "realm of possibility" to be mindful of. What I'm saying is, if the vaccine is in support of protecting people from naturally occurring viruses is fine but engineering viruses that mutate in theirs hosts in order to force inoculation repeatedly (netflix for health | viro-capitalism) is just evil and this is the conspiracy. I'm trying to deduce whether or not this is a cash grab or a natural viral evolution.

This Dr. Shiva talks about it in that video, the deployment and "advertising" of the vaccine in order to create the demand then the fear and awareness and lastly the solution or vaccine.

And yes, there is a bunch of drama surrounding him as well. I always try to remember the tactics in sundering your opponent, one of the steps is discredit your opponents reputation. Things I keep in mind.

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@sda @vnarek Great find. This attests to the spinelessness and lack of confidence in the face of criticism and fear of losing your social capital. Here is the crux of the short article:

In May, in what it admitted was a direct response to the outbreak of swine flu the month before, WHO promulgated a new definition matched to swine flu that simply eliminated severity as a factor. You could now have a pandemic with zero deaths.

"Under fire, the organization is boldly lying about the change, to which anybody with an Internet connection can attest. In a mid-January virtual conference WHO swine flu chief Keiji Fukuda stated: "Did WHO change its definition of a pandemic? The answer is no: WHO did not change its definition." Two weeks later at a PACE conference he insisted: "Having severe deaths has never been part of the WHO definition."

They did it; but why?

In part, it was CYA for the WHO. The agency was losing credibility over the refusal of avian flu H5N1 to go pandemic and kill as many as 150 million people worldwide, as its "flu czar" had predicted in 2005."

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