When people ask me why they should pay more for a #EV than for a #GasCar, and I tell them that's partially because the costs of #gasoline are largely hidden from consumers, as so clearly laid out in this piece from #Grist :

grist.org/accountability/gas-s

#ElectrifyEverything #ElectricCars #ElectricVehicles #EnvironmentalDisaster

@giamora

Whilst billions of EVs on the roadkill network will clean up our local air, why do you believe that billions of EVs (that will eventually have to be replaced) will mitigate climate change?

@panduck

Knowing how to & doing the actions that would mitigate climate is what l have dedicated most of my adult life to.

If you want to mitigate climate change - the general solution qoto.org/@Empiricism_Reloaded/

Wrong actions = mining the sea bed for resources so EVs, etc. can be made.

Redistributing resources (metal) & focusing on EV public transport & EV bicycles (small EV vehicles) is part of the general solution.

Billions of private EVs on a roadkill network isn't

@giamora

@Empiricism_Reloaded @giamora First off, 1 billion EVs vs 1 billion gas cars IS degrowth, as they are way less resource heavy and strain the climate way less.

That said, it is not enough, but I still get frustrated that
1) We need people to buy new EVs instead of new gas cars and
2) We need people to use public transport instead of buying cars

are presented as conflicting ideas. They are not. We can try to do both.

@Empiricism_Reloaded @giamora Also, should 2 fail, we have at least done SOME. Not trying to replace new gas cars with new EVs is EXACTLY what the oil industry wants! (and the auto industry for that matter, the are not doing EVs because they want to but because they have to)

We need fewer cars, we need smaller cars, and we need cars to be EVs instead of gas cars, and we need to be able to work for all of those points, not just one.

@panduck @giamora

To be clear. I'm 100% in favor of 100% replacing ALL the vehicles that burn fuels - as burning fuels (e.g., Diesel, Petrol, Biofuel, wood fuel [which is a biofuel]) emits nasty air pollution that harms people and the planet (biosphere).

I'm just stating the obvious. We can't solve one problem by making another (mining) problem worse (& mining & transporting those metals also use fossil fuels)

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