@Lassielmr @IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6
I believe you will find that many 'managers' are classed as administrators rather than specifically as managers. In one case of which I am aware, a guy developing Excel spreadsheets for various purposes in a hospital was officially on the payroll as a nurse to help keep the balance between medical staff and others tipped on the medical side!
The best way to deal with bureaucracy is not to employ more pen-pushers to avoid frontline staff being burdened with it but to slash the bloody bureaucracy at least 50% of which is most likely totally unnecessary!
As a software engineer, I have done development work both for the NHS and for many other large organisations that are household names.
@Thebratdragon @Lassielmr @IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6
The guy was a nurse and a quite talented amateur programmer, so he was trained, qualified and registered as a nurse but wasn't actually doing that. When the hospital where he worked discovered his talents with Excel and VBA, they put him to work doing that instead of nursing as that was a more pressing need.
The story has a sad ending for the NHS, at least; the last I heard of him, he had been head-hunted via the grape-vine by a firm in the City of London where Excel skills are in huge demand, where he was earning around 5 times what a nurse is paid and eventually was put in charge of the Excel team at the asset management company where he worked on £250,000 a year.
@Paulos_the_fog @Lassielmr @IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6 good for him, sad for patients.