b_chocolatey @b_chocolatey@qoto.org

@atheism hi! #atheistic #atheism

@Atheist hi! #atheistic #atheism

@Atheist hi! #atheistic #atheism

@lack what I’m saying is that the reverence emotion is morally correct, objectively speaking; and that somebody totally lacking it is morally defective. There is of course some level of reasonable disagreement over how to express it and to what end; because “now we see through a glass, darkly”. #1Cor13 #1Corinthians13 #Bible

@bryankam hi! #Nietzsche

@bryankam hi! #Nietzsche

@lack @MtnStateNomad “and whoever disagrees goes voluntarily to the madhouse. In the former days, all the world was mad, they say… and they blink”

@lack @MtnStateNomad my observation here “you didn’t even read the brochure” is the exact, diametrically opposed position from Newton’s standing on the shoulders of giants. It is actually the sort of thing that #Nietzsche had in mind prophesying of the Last Man. “We have invented happiness, they say, and they blink”

@lack @MtnStateNomad like dude, you didn’t even read the brochure! He already addressed this obvious question. Do you have a counter-argument?

@lack @MtnStateNomad the Buddha himself addressed this very question in numerous sutras. “And if a man holds to Wrong View, will he abstain from alcoholic and intoxicating drink, from the shedding of blood, from gambling, from unlawful intercourse with other men’s wives, from telling lies?”

@lack @MtnStateNomad not really… but if an idea is obviously true and the opposite is obviously false to any reasonable adult, surely it would have caught on, somewhere, in the historical record.

@lack @MtnStateNomad “when one holds to Wrong View, monks, at the breakup of the body, he enters into a bad destination, a lower world, in hell…”

@lack @MtnStateNomad so godless materialism is something that the Athenian prosecutor denounced, also something that the Buddha denounced as the opposite of Right View. “And what, monks, is Right View? Right View is that one hold that there is Father and Mother, monks and saints, holy-days and offerings, good and bad action, good and bad karma in this life and the next…”

@lack @MtnStateNomad and the Athenian belief of “the sun is a god, the sun shines on us because it loves us” differs from monotheism only because monotheism teaches that the sun-god is also the moon-god and the maker of the entire universe. The Sermon on the Mount: the sun shines on us because God loves us! All of us!

@lack @MtnStateNomad and aside from that other obscure Greek, Socrates was accused (perhaps wrongfully) of conspiracy against the Athenian state; because he had secretly taught his younger students that the sun is just a ball of fire and not a god (he denied this at trial)

@lack @MtnStateNomad Materialism isn’t actually an extremely difficult concept to figure out! There was an obscure Greek philosopher back in the day who said that the gods were imaginary and that the wind and rain are random events. Why didn’t it catch on? Why did the Greek pantheon have such staying power - and evolve into the Roman pantheon, until the time of Theodosius?

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