+bonifartius 𒂼𒄄 @bonifartius@qoto.org

@mk @RGBCube @theorytoe
> unilaterally declares victory due to made up facts

bless your heart

i described pretty well what the things involved do and what they were made for. @RGBCube explained that they are in use by distribution packages.

i can't keep you from using fluoridated stuff like docker or proxmox. maybe it's one of these things in life one has to learn the hard way

@chromeratt @mk @RGBCube @theorytoe
not arguing that, developer environments is what docker was developed for anyway

@DCR das sind halt diese pseudo-sozialen floskeln. wie irgendwen "abholen wo er steht".

@DCR hihi :D

ich war mir da auch nicht ganz sicher wer da überhaupt denkt und erst recht nicht wer oder was zusammen :P

@mk @RGBCube @theorytoe
i have to do some drywall now, so i'll keep it short:

- namespaces are a copy of a plan9 idea to have composable environments, isolation is a side effect.

- cgroups limit resource usage, might be worthwhile to prevent some daemon going crazy. otoh there already were things in place for that like umask.

- chroot is no "container feature". postfix chroots by default, so do many other daemons. you still need good user/group structure and appropriately set permissions in any case.

all of these things are usable without resorting to docker. @RGBCube explained how a distribution can use the same features with it's packages.

side note: you using words like "retard" and "faggot" while shilling docker which frequently has pride events borders on the comedic.

@mk @theorytoe sorry, the relevant articles aren't available in simple english :)

@mk @theorytoe if running 16 kernels eats all your ram, you have other problems. 16 containers have to be updated as well. with a sane diatribution i have security updates in around one day 💁

@mk @theorytoe
pretty easy, they can't be more safe than the technologies they are composed of. in practice they are more insecure because of the bullshit update mechanisms.

@nexus_plasma@liberdon.com zeit für nen neuen konkurrenzfussballverband?

@mk @theorytoe
- vms can use dynamic allocation for years now.
- containers provide absolutely no additional security.

running on the host is perfectly fine. it only requires one to know what one is doing, of course.

lastly, i'd be careful to calling other people retard when using "bro".

@m0urs@social.urspringer.de naja, müssen ja nur gucken auf welchen ports eine verbindung zustande kommt.

ob das legal ist, ist fraglich. könnte datenschutzbeauftrage interessieren.

@mk @theorytoe you missed the point. containers just make things harder. they are nice rube goldberg machines for shit languages like python which are hell to deploy.

when just installing everything from packages, things will receive timely security patches of the distribution.

when using VMs, one has to upgrade a few VMs for this. not great, not terrible.

with containers one has to hope that some image down the stack will be upgraded to include the fix, while the whole setup provides worse isolation than VMs (which already is prone to leakage). with containers the isolation is essentially the same as for plain linux users and chroot. no improvement. cgroups limiting resource usage can be set by the init system, i think systemd does this already.

containers sure have their use case, but mostly they are a crappy solution waiting for problems.

in the end the image is a meme which makes the point that ftp-ing a directory full of php scripts worked better than all the modern shit.

@Moon what did he do now? xD

@McMongoose alles was sonst länger dauert wie kartoffeln oder getrocknete bohnen. geht einfach schneller dann. zum einkochen ist der auch super weil es heisser als 100°C wird!

https://www.tagesschau.de/wissen/gesundheit/darmkrebs-europa-anstieg-todesfaelle-100.html

ok, dieser artikel liest sich weitestgehend wie "aktuelle zahlen". es kommt nur einmal ziemlich versteckt im text vor das es eine komplett ersponnene prognose ist:

> Besonders stark steigt die Todesrate bei Darmkrebs im Altersbereich von 25 bis 49 Jahren nach der Prognose des Forschungsteams für 2024 verglichen mit dem Zeitraum 2015 bis 2019 in Großbritannien: [...]

der rest des artikels sagt dann weiter "alles gut, die zahlen gehen voll nach unten!"

die quelle dann so:

> Materials and methods
>
> Based on cancer death certification and population data from the World Health Organization and Eurostat databases from 1970 until the most available year, we predicted deaths and age-standardized rates (ASRs) for 2024 for all cancers and the 10 most common cancer sites. We fitted a linear regression to the most recent trend segment identified by the joinpoint model. The number of avoided deaths since the peak in 1988-2024 was estimated for all cancers and CRC.

soso, linear fit.

mein aluhut dazu: hier soll der anschein erweckt werden das alles ok ist, obwohl grade reihenweise leute an turbokrebs durch die sogenannten impfungen verrecken.

> Ihre nächste geplante "Massenblockade" am 3. Februar sagte die "Letzte Generation" zugunsten einer Aktion gegen Rechtsextremismus ab. Klimakatastrophe und Faschismus müssten "zusammen gedacht werden", begründete die Gruppe ihre Entscheidung.

@r000t how anyone still can think "will not happen" after the last few years is a mystery to me :)