@argetlam99 @flexghost I think for many there are questions about the specific facts – was Rosenbaum really a threat and so on. There's self-defense, but that doesn't mean you get to gun down anyone that looks at you sideways – and it isn't always clear-cut.

I don't know if I've seen/heard all the evidence in this case, but it does seem to me like legitimate self defense in all three shootings. At least, I'm a little taken aback by people who talk about it as if it is *of course* murder; I mean, I could understand a different take on it, but ya gotta admit he was being attacked. (Kind of feels like it depends on what "side" you're on, if I'm being cynical.)

I used to think he should be punished for the other gun crimes like taking it across state lines, but it turns out he didn't do any of that at all. And his father lives in/near Kenosha; the canard about driving for 4 hours to some faraway town just to mix it up doesn't seem to hold up.

I'm uneasy about untrained people – especially minors – showing up with guns to defend other people's stores, but these riots were pretty rough. No great answers. I completely understand/support these guys protecting their businesses: https://reason.com/2020/05/29/black-civilians-arm-themselves-to-protest-racial-violence-and-protect-black-owned-businesses/