@Shadowfalx @ech @xs4me2 @flexghost Is carrying gun illegal in US? No. Is traveling armed between states in US illegal? No. Is using words as a freedom of speech even tho it might trigger someone illegal? No. Does all of this illegal for underage person? No. Does this person found guilty for what he did? No. You describe it like and i quote: "crossed state lines with a gun to cossplay as an unwanted security guard who antagonized others with words." .

If you hate the rights of people in US, Don't live there. immigrate to a country that have strict gun law.
You just hate the idea of of some people have in your country and you have right to do so. But you can't ask for. You can carry a gun in local bar depending on state and permit. Carrying a gun is responsibility. Without knowing value of life gun safety, Everyone is potential murderer.

@turretjust @ech @xs4me2 @flexghost
A) you don't know me, I've done more for this country than you've done in general.
B) Transporting a firearm across state lines CAN be illegal, depending on who is transporting it and what firearm it is.
B) Using words to incite violence is illegal.
C) he was found not guilty, I already said that, does you not read?
D) you sound like you are unfamiliar with US law, maybe you should do a bit or Google searching.

@turretjust @ech @xs4me2 @flexghost

Furthermore, telling me to emigrate instead of attempting to fix what I see as a problem is both asinine and right wing grifter crap.

I don't need to leave, I can attempt to fix what I see as wrong. If you don't like that you can attempt to fix what you see as wrong, and whichever one of us has the support of the people (hint, I know who that would be) will win. You can, in all honesty, go shove your anti immigration and pro gun crap right up where your ass

@Shadowfalx @ech @xs4me2 @flexghost@mastodon.socia
a) You don't know me neither I wrote more than 10000 lines of opensource code that actively being used. Hosting 10's of tor servers and encrypted communication routes for whistleblowers&journalists. What you did was write"LGBTQ+, female, minority, etc." to your bio and write shove something to your ass online.
b) was the gun he used illegal to transport between states ? Its not.
by "Using words to incite violence" you mean fighting words? Most of the time context matter in those and It was reciprocal.
C) You wrote "who deserves to be haunted for the rest of his life" ,"he certainly wasn't innocent". Compare it to "shoot anyone who comes near me and then claim self defense".
D)I am unfamiliar with any law. I didn't go law school but I studied ethics with Cyberethics. Read a few ethics book. Google searching US laws wont put me in same place as juristiction that find him not guilty.

You write 'B' twice ?

@turretjust @ech @xs4me2

Lol, yeah okay bud.

@Shadowfalx @turretjust @xs4me2 @flexghost turns out the canard about him traveling far away looking for trouble or whatever isn't really true; his father lived in/near Kenosha; it's his hometown.

@ech @turretjust @xs4me2 @flexghost
He would "sometimes" visit his dad. That's at best convenient and most likely irrelevant. He did not live in Kenosha (he lived with his mother) and he was not visiting his father (he was there to "guard" other people's property without being asked)

@Shadowfalx @turretjust @xs4me2 @flexghost aside from the canard about him living far away not being true, apparently he also did not transport the gun across state lines at all. (If that even matters wrt any laws)

@ech @turretjust @xs4me2 @flexghost his gun was being stored (according to his testimony) at a friend's house in WI. In fact that friends is being prosecuted for making a straw purchase.

The only reason Rittenhouse was not found guilty of possession of a dangerous weapon is the law specifies that it would need to be a short barrel.

The fact remains, he traveled to Kenosha with the intent to harm others. He was found not guilty, so he is legally clear, but morally he still failed

@Shadowfalx @turretjust @xs4me2 @flexghost I don't think we can really conclude that his intent was to harm people. I mean, maybe it was, but we don't especially have any reason to think that.

Anyway the bottom line about the gun law thing is he didn't violate any laws, yes? (Did the friend buy the gun illegally for him or something? That would be a thing.) And he didn't travel far away to a place he isn't connected with.

But yeah: he brought a (highly visible) gun to a protest, no question there.

@ech @turretjust @xs4me2 @flexghost his friend bought the gun illegally, since Rittenhouse was 17 and it was illegal for him to purchase a gun.

@Shadowfalx @turretjust @xs4me2 @flexghost I'm uneasy about untrained armed people guarding stores, or as you say "cossplay as an unwanted security guard". Especially minors. But these riots were pretty rough; no easy answers here. From what I understand I completely support these guys, for example: https://reason.com/2020/05/29/black-civilians-arm-themselves-to-protest-racial-violence-and-protect-black-owned-businesses/

@ech @turretjust @xs4me2 @flexghost I'm fine with business owners defending their business. I'm less fine with them defending the property than them defending people who happen to be caught in the business during a protest. That goes for anyone. Property is never, not should it ever, be more important than lives. That includes the lives of people damaging property.

I have no problem with guns, I have a problem with the obsession side people have with guns. Guns should never be the first option.