It's possible to be anti-war *and* still support the Ukrainian people in their struggle for existence against a genocidal regime.
It's possible to stand in opposition to the Israeli apartheid state *and* be horrified by the recent human rights abuses by Hamas.
@gwensnyder it's just that it tends to be that the horrors unleashed by Israel for decades on innocent Palestinians do not seem to be met with the same or equal amount of hatred or outrage
@metaphorology @gwensnyder Two observations: (1) they aren't as "acute" – we don't have anything like these videos of Hamas kidnapping civilians that are covered in blood – instead it's just like oh maybe Israel isn't responding to reports of settlers harassing shepherds as fast as they should – and (2) Hamas keeps diverting attention away from Israel's sins by covering civilians with blood and then kidnapping them.
I guess one way to look at it is like what others are saying in this thread: Hamas is really doing any warmongering Israeli politicians a huge favor by keeping the narrative focused away from whatever Israel is doing wrong.
It's like Putin: maybe he had a legitimate complaint about too many countries joining NATO or whatever. Nobody cares about that anymore, to say the least. (He must have known this would happen, though, so I suspect his real reasons are elsewhere. Same with Hamas.)
@ech @gwensnyder I don't necessarily know if "acute" is the right word, because media representation is inherently biased; neither do I disagree that Hamas is acting according to how the right wing Israeli government expects them too but the reaction is also not just a reaction to the current government but generations of anger and bitterness amongst most parties.
The one point I cannot concede, is that under international law Israel never had the legal entitlement to Palestinian land.