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@Spijder @ffranny @Green_Footballs I think we have no reason to doubt her sincerity, but if that's how she feels she picked the wrong server. 😂

@amberage @feditips Overly uh, call it "enthusiastic" moderation is another, somewhat related, problem that Fediverse has.

If enough people silo themselves off into little ideological echo chambers, then it will be that much easier for the big instance to take over. (That's the main reason I chose the instance I'm on, FWIW.)

@feditips I want to suggest that everyone else defederating mastodon.social simply will not happen, so we should not plan on that idea saving us and instead look elsewhere.

It seems to me that the main problem in this area is that "Mastodon" has won out as the brand for this thing, where "this thing" is really ActivityPub (or possibly "the fediverse"). "Mastodon" is the software, not those things, and yet here we are.

Possibly because "ActivityPub" and "Fediverse" aren't very good names? Mastodon has better logos and fun things like "toots"? I don't know.

This fact is why "joinmastodon.org" being owned by Mastodon is a problem, and why the app being owned by Mastodon is a problem.

@calculsoberic@mstdn.social Rather ban-happy, though.

@nafnlaus @DimitriFayolle @nileane That sounds like it has a lot of potential; it's more the "protocols not platforms" approach, like imagine if you could pick from a menu of algorithms for your feed. I think Mastodon kinda botched this aspect of it; turns out a lot of server admins are really bad at this.

@bouriquet I don't get your question. I never said idpol lefties were stupid or anything? So sure: they do some good work fighting some of that kind of power. Also in fighting unintentional systems that make some people's lives worse (e.g. "systemic racism") – IMO that's where they really shine. I think they get a few really important things wrong, but yeah! What you said.

That doesn't mean it's useful to call someone you disagree with a fascist, of course. That's trash political marketing, aside from any issues with intellectual honesty.

@avram @Joaquincastrotx His family were refugees in Egypt when he was very young. I don't know if this really supports Castro's point, although there's plenty in the Bible about kindness to strangers/foreigners without that particular example, so I'd say the point mostly remains regardless of Jesus' personal status as an immigrant.

But I don't know what "hateful laws" he's talking about that he thinks Republicans have a monopoly on: it's not like Trump deported more people than Obama or anything, we still have "kids in cages" even though the Democrats are back in charge. etc. Fix your party first, Castro.

@bouriquet "not be far left" It's all relative. Here, yes, I'd say you are correct; any support of capitalism pretty much makes you a fascist around here.

@Mor696 Violet's "you accused someone..." post is objecting to my characterization of why I got blocked. She's not wrong: I was probably blocked for the windmill thing, as she says.

I think I was right about why you got blocked, though.

The threading here is maybe throwing you off; if I reply to you, then someone else replies to me, your name is in their reply also, making it look like they replied to you when really they did not – in their reply "you" refers to me, for example.

@Mor696 @chairgirlhands I'll reword: Are you basing your impression of Nazi economic policy on something other than the propaganda that the Nazi's published?

The 25-point program, for example, talks a good game about profit-sharing, nationalizing lots of businesses and land, etc. But I think they mostly didn't do that stuff.

@Mor696 Try not to let the prickly people get to you. It's probably best to move on. If it makes you feel any better the "fuck off" was directed at me, not you, you just got a polite "f*ck off". 😂

You'll get no resolution about this: she appears to have blocked you. Let's have a friendly discussion about Nazi economic policy instead.

@chairgirlhands @Mor696 Yeah there was definitely a lot of central planning and high tariffs, so far from a capitalist utopia, but I think the whole "socialist" part of the name was pure marketing BS. Darcy are you basing this impression on something other than what they said in their propaganda?

@Mor696 @chairgirlhands re. GQP – I thought you were just completely ignorant, TBH.

OK so you're calling someone "fascist" because they're on the other side of a quibble about what age a certain book is appropriate for. Got it. 👍

@Mor696 @chairgirlhands This is no better than twitter in that respect, sorry to say. You and I both got blocked by OP here it seems, due to our replies being something other than enthusiastic agreement and lament. That's how it is quite often on instances like mastodon.social.

@Mor696 @chairgirlhands

"Nazis were very far left." I'm fine with abandoning the left/right thing, but it's probably not useful to say this; you just aren't meaning the same thing by "left" that anyone else means, so no communication is possible. And they weren't really socialist; they talked about socialist economic policy because it was kinda popular at the time, but never really implemented it to any great extent, IIUC. But even if they did, that isn't the thing anyone cares about with respect to them.

It's not "GQP".

"they are the current Fascist party." Don't be silly. US fascist parties include ANP, the unfortunately-named NSPA, etc. They're disbanded, though, I believe.

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