Sarcastic Penguin @extrn@qoto.org

@rbe_expert @adiz @don Complaining about "heroic struggles" from a trotzkist sounds rather funny. What do you expect from your utopia? No work? I can tell you what will happen: after the initial heroic effort required to create the new world, everything gradually normalizes: you go and work 8 hours, sleep 8 hours and 8 hours do whatever. The efficiency gradually decreases ("why should I work when it doesn't matter?"). People start to depend on the state for everything, they lose the capability to self-organize, stop believing in their own powers and become a herd. Innovation becomes difficult: virtually anything has to be initiated by the state... Then everyone gradually becomes poor. Virtually no one is motivated to bust their ass working, when everyone takes the same share. It's the human nature.

@rbe_expert @adiz @don You look radicalized by extreme marx-wing propaganda. Yet you are not in prison, you are free to spread your kind of propaganda in direct aid to foreign powers. That suggests there are some degrees of freedom that you enjoy. I bet that nothing stops you from buying a few hectares of land in Montana to create a commune where you can try marxism in practice...

@rbe_expert @adiz @don you have never lived in a tyrany my dude...

@rbe_expert @adiz @don it's just a dream. And it's not better. As many tomes before it will start with violence and it will end in tyrany

@rbe_expert @adiz @don that's just in USA. It'a not the whole world. USA has these backward notions regarding healthcare and education...

@rbe_expert @don @adiz as I said, complex systems can only evolve. They don't come by via catastrophic changes. Capitalism is a much safer bet than some bloody marxist coup that will leave the society in ruins. Just look at ruZZia...

@rbe_expert @adiz @don you dream of utopias and complain how real-world systems are not perfect. Where is your working system? Some people tried it. Several times. They all failed miserably. Sure you would have done it better

@rbe_expert @adiz @don Has anyone ever?

@rbe_expert @don @adiz It doesn't matter what I allow or not. Existence is not subjective. There are deep problems with marxism and it goes contrary to human nature.

@rbe_expert @adiz @don I have lived under socialism (in a marxist state) and have lived under democracy. What have you done and what basis do you have to compare? Some propaganda video on youtube?

@rbe_expert @adiz @don Before unlearning economics, you should learn some. Better yet, use it in practice. You may find it more enjoyable than arguing from the height of your ivory tower.

@rbe_expert @don @adiz You are like a parrot repeating propaganda but you don't have a standing - you argue from the position of the invisible purple unicorn. Show me a marxist state, so I can show you the camps, the murderous militia, the ideologically loaded decisions that lead to disasters.... It has been done many times with awful consequences. How many milions did Mao kill (with hunger!!) because of his stupid policies? And what is your counter? "capitalists don't give free money so people are dying"?

@rbe_expert @adiz @don histerical propaganda

@rbe_expert @adiz @don you seem to think in conspiracies and "elites" and other scarecrows :) It is not like this. There are many agents that influence the society - not just some nefarious capitalist organization.

@rbe_expert @adiz @don you have zero evidence for this.

@rbe_expert @adiz @don Read "The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined". It may change your catastrophic views.

@rbe_expert @adiz @don conspiracy is strong with you. Aren't you familiar with the propaganda model (Chomsky)? It is not all conspiracies of nefarious organizations

@rbe_expert @adiz @don because from the point of view of the individual ("worker") it matters very much on which side of the border they'll happen to end. I'm not going to accept any concessions to terrorists and murderers. For you, it seems, the individual happiness has no meaning and these struggles are just a meaningless distraction from the grand fight against capitalism... It all very conveniently coincides with positions of dictators and terrorists: "it all does not matter, as long as there is capitalist oppression"... It is a stupid, fanatical point. Not all evils are equal... some are more equal (if you allow me the reference).