@kravietz Perhaps you are right, but Navalny seems like a right-wing CIA/MI6 puppet like Juan Guaidó. A tool in the regime change warfare.

@modrobert

If there was a slightest hint of Navalny being controlled by a foreign power, you'd have Russian state media all over it for the last year. Instead, they sentenced him based on a decade-old economic case where his and his brother's crime was making profit on sales of wood. And the direct pretext for his jailing this time was that he wasn't present at the probation office while he was unconscious in a hospital due to poisoning by FSB.

@modrobert Murad Gazdiev and RT just recently published a video of alleged ODIHR "training for Russian opposition" that was set up so lame that even pro-government journalists were embarrassed. A couple of years ago they also produced an "intercept of CIA agents planning MH17 bombing" that resulted in similar facepalms (and even there they managed to include Navalny). So you should definitely take whatever RT posts with a pinch of salt.

@kravietz I have no doubt Putin go after his political opponents, but have serious doubts about Navalny. Perhaps I'm biased due to his neo-nazi background.

@modrobert

But he has no neo-nazi background. Once again, this is something that has been invented relatively recently by RT - they inflated a few of his comments from >10 years ago where he was critical of immigrants from Caucasus. His views back then could have been described as "nationalist" but even that would be a far stretch. You could say Dmitry Rogozin, a prominent Kremlin politicians and head of Roscosmos, has way more "neo-nazi" background than Navalny but somehow RT doesn't care.

@modrobert

And then you have Margarita Simonyan, head of RT, accusing Navalny of being "neo-nazi" because of his 2011 comments, while she makes rather disgusting and openly racist comments on regular basis - her husband made a whole racist sketch about Obama, she defended him and argued about "criminal negroes" being a plague in the US.

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@kravietz I'm pretty sure the reason for leaking the footage of Navalny's organization taking money from MI6 was to hang him out and make him look bad, but all the persons involved are named, so it's pretty hard to dismiss as evidence, regardless of what you think about RT.

@modrobert

Then you have Ashurkov who is asking for money, and you have Ford barely saying anything apart from "yes, yes".

And that's it - there's *nothing* else in the video, all the rest is RT narrative.

Can you now see how you were manipulated into believing what you saw was:

> footage of Navalny's organization taking money from MI6

@kravietz No, I don't see any manipulation except story bias, if this video leak was fake it would have been debunked all over western mainstream media, but it was not mentioned anywhere except RT and perhaps push back (or grayzone).

@modrobert

Let's me take that into parts for you:

* There's evidence for Ashurkov meeting a former UK diplomat for fund raising
* There's no evidence of Ford having anything to do with MI6
* There's no evidence of Ford actually committing to any funding to Ashurkov
* There's no evidence of Navalny coordinating that with Ashurkov

But if all you were able to see there was:

> footage of Navalny's organization taking money from MI6

Then it's clearly a manipulation, and a quite effective one!

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@kravietz If the west (NATO) didn't support Navalny they wouldn't defend him in mainstream news, as simple as that. It's like Ukraine, similar methods, similar neo-nazi fractions.

@modrobert

As someone who was born in Poland and frequently visits both Russia and Ukraine, I call this narrative bullshit. Thousands of people are going out to the streets because their governments suck at providing them with reasonable life, not because they're paid by some "West" or "NATO". And calling Ukraine "neo-nazi fractions" only indicates that you never actually visited the country and 100% adopted the RT narrative.

@kravietz I have friends in Sweden from Ukraine, they confirm this, not only that, but it's not really neo-nazism, it's pure nazism since WW2.

@modrobert

Sorry, they are delusional and they lied to you. Go and fly to Kyiv, tickets are cheap and you will see for yourself. Hard to find a more cosmopolitan and liberal capital than Kyiv today in Europe. And, contrary to the bullshit in RT, you can freely speak Russian in Ukraine, which I do all the time as I hardly speak Ukrainian.

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