@kravietz I'm not trying to control you, or make you post anything. I was under the impression we had a discussion. We agree about some things, and also disagree, feels normal.
@kravietz Interesting you brought up the election in USA, because if they really had democracy there it would most likely be a peaceful and prosperous country, but they have been controlled by the MIC (Military Industrial Complex) for several decades, maybe even longer, through lobbying and campaign donations (legalized corruption). Without war the only traditional industry they have left, defense/military with domestic production can't survive, so they will have to find new countries to invade and more military bases (besides the 800 based they currently have abroad).
@kravietz On the contrary, I'm hoping the Russian people get whatever president they vote for, ideally without corruption. I also hope that the candidate who gets elected is disliked by the west, because that means the Russian people have a chance of not getting their country taken over and destroyed.
@kravietz Lets say Navalny gets out of prison, he continues his political goals and finally become president of Russia. Now what? The Russian oligarchs will be replaced by Western oligarchs (corporations) as the free market opens up more, but people in general will remain poor.
@kravietz I do agree with you on this point about the oil industry investigation, and changed my views slightly about his background, but it also reinforced the case for him being used by the west.
@kravietz Yes, I did read the article, and Navalny is a perfect pawn for the NATO agenda to undermine Russia, regardless of his own intentions being pure or not. Since when did NATO ever care about what happens to the people of countries after their regime change efforts? Recent examples are Afghanistan, Syria, Libya and Iraq.
@kravietz I have friends in Sweden from Ukraine, they confirm this, not only that, but it's not really neo-nazism, it's pure nazism since WW2.
@kravietz Think I found the reason Navalny was initially being considered "useful" to the US: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW2632_a.html
@kravietz If the west (NATO) didn't support Navalny they wouldn't defend him in mainstream news, as simple as that. It's like Ukraine, similar methods, similar neo-nazi fractions.
@kravietz No, I don't see any manipulation except story bias, if this video leak was fake it would have been debunked all over western mainstream media, but it was not mentioned anywhere except RT and perhaps push back (or grayzone).
@kravietz What initially got my skepticism going was how all of sudden the whole western mainstream media was calling out Russia for mistreatment of Navalny, a previously relatively unknown political figure in the west, it followed a similar pattern as Juan Guaidó (which was pretty much unknown even in Venezuela before mainstream media started its campaign). Why care so much about what happens to a politician in an enemy country, unless they have some other motive behind it?
@kravietz Yes, several of them still in the SD party.
@kravietz I'm pretty sure the reason for leaking the footage of Navalny's organization taking money from MI6 was to hang him out and make him look bad, but all the persons involved are named, so it's pretty hard to dismiss as evidence, regardless of what you think about RT.
@kravietz I've seen similar happen in Sweden, back in the late 90s they wore swastikas and salute with "sieg heil", the past decades they cleaned up their act and got elected (Sweden Democrats party), but their values remain.
@kravietz I have no doubt Putin go after his political opponents, but have serious doubts about Navalny. Perhaps I'm biased due to his neo-nazi background.
@kravietz My mistake, you were just quoting the headline.
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