@hannu_ikonen @Mary625 @StillIRise1963 @Vincarsi @sidereal I just realized that I’ve been wasting a lot of time arguing with that guy. Anyone from qoto.org is a sealioning Nazi apologist, so he should just be blocked and not argued with. The argument is what they want which is why he hijacked this thread.
@cadenza @hannu_ikonen @Mary625@newsie.social @StillIRise1963 @Vincarsi @sidereal not everyone on qoto.org is a Nazi apologist. I think that contingent is a minority.
Please do not block me for being on the same server
@rrb @hannu_ikonen @Mary625 @StillIRise1963 @Vincarsi @sidereal I would strongly suggest finding a new instance because that one has a BAD reputation. Also, you know what they say about keeping company with Nazis…
@cadenza @hannu_ikonen @Mary625@newsie.social @StillIRise1963 @Vincarsi @sidereal
When I moved in, I looked around and I think it said science/tech.
The one you had issues with has issues. (Gun control discussions with him are hard to stomach.) I discovered later.
Moving seems like a pain. Any suggestions for a better home node for someone with techie/human rights interests?
OTOH, I feel uncomfortable when people agree with me. That is probably part of the reason why I feel good in SC, where I disagree with everyone about everything.
@rrb @hannu_ikonen @Mary625 @StillIRise1963 @Vincarsi @sidereal yeah, but there’s productive disagreement and then there’s waste-your-time disagreement. And a Nazi site is particularly pernicious because it’s as if you already agree just by engaging with them. (They crave legitimacy.) For productive disagreement, you have to be in the same reality (which is why this is impossible with a Fox News viewer). You may never end up agreeing but ideally you’ll at least understand how the other person arrived at their point of view. That’s a productive disagreement. You cannot have that with Nazis, since their opening premise is genocide. There is nothing to be reasonable about with them so it’s a complete waste of time (and morally wrong) to engage.
@cadenza @hannu_ikonen @Mary625@newsie.social @StillIRise1963 @Vincarsi @sidereal
You are right with everything. We will see when annoyance wins out over inertia for me. When I chose, I had no good way of judging the mastodon instances.
It is possible to have productive discussions with people form the other side, but only when they are sincere and not just trolling.
That is the real reason why discussions with Fox News viewers and Ramaswamyites is useless. They don't really care about their positions. The only real point is annoying the other side.
Thanks.
