@socjuswiz @alex Thanks, I am reading quite a bit. Not to make light, but seems to me that no one seems to like anyone else. That is a situation that can only benefit the opposition.

I do get the resistance to be lumped together with some other group that seems to be riding the coattails of one's accomplishments. But I kind of remember late 60's and early 70's where the lesbians didn't care to be associated with the (male homosexuals) ....

How can anyone look at the issues of LGBTQIA as a force for change and summarily dismiss pieces of it they don't care to agree with. That is rhetorical, not worth a response. I am aware that the issue is outside of that alphabet soup and into 3WF or RF which does not necessarily overlap the LQBTQIA community unless you accept Catharine Mackinnon's concepts that for all intents and purposes seem to force the feminist movement into the lesbian world by default.