Does being in a war make it good for ordinary people to collect and post and gloat over snuff videos all day long on social media

@Moon The war isn't the ordinary people's war but geopolitics at the higher levels of society... so why not?

@sim @Moon every war is the ordinary people's war.

@Amikke @Moon Not really. Ordinary people are led into war by their leaders and the propaganda put out to justify the war. Ordinary people are the biggest losers in war.

@sim @Moon every war, except maybe some revolutions, works like that. They're all ordinary people's wars as they are the ones fighting, losing their relatives, on at least one side losing their homes and birthplaces, and the ones most affected otherwise. No peasant has ever said "you know what, fuck these people far away that I've never seen so much I'm willing to die for it".

@Amikke @Moon I wouldn't call that ordinary people's wars, of course they would make up the bulk of the forces and experience the heavy losses. But they are not the ones leading and making the decisions to go to war. In the past, a lot of the wars were based on royal disputes between each other, and it was a way of gaining more land, to extract resources and to fill the coffers. Sometimes to further influence like religious influence. When it wasn't defensive.

I hope you can understand why I don't consider those wars to be the people's war. I think it is a mistake to think of it like that and would even legitimise a war when we think it is done for the ordinary people. Leaders get away with so much bullshit from that excuse rather than taking responsibility for their war and actions.

@sim @Moon I'm just saying that using your qualifiers nearly no war ever was an ordinary people's war. Which I disagree with especially since from what I understood you're using this one's "not the ordinary people's war" status to make light of its horrors.