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@mw1cgg honestly baffling that's legal in the USA at all. Try that in an EU country and whatever local branch of the government enforces workers' rights will happily explain to you how much you need to fuck off. Not to mention that if you get away with it and try to enforce it, you'll be laughed out of court, likely also starting a separate case of breaking employment laws.

Employers borrow a portion of your time, not take ownership of your life. Stuff like this should never happen in a country that claims to be civilised.

@Amikke @mw1cgg It's going to keep happening so long as people allow it.
Simply say no and it stops. Otherwise, you get what you deserve.
@dcc @Doll @mw1cgg @Amikke Wow if only there were some way to attach a full size image to a post so that people could interpret it. Gosh I wish they would add that feature to the Mastodon protocol.

@pwm @mw1cgg some years ago I'd agree, but you probably know as well as I now do that as long as it's not prohibited, the majority of people that don't know enough or don't care enough will allow it and as such dictate the market reality to the minority that does. It's happened with privacy, it's happened with owning your music/games, it's happened with intrusive advertising, it's happened with virtually every aspect of workers' rights and it will keep happening.

@Amikke @mw1cgg Yes the cattle are the footsoldiers of the intentionally evil and exploitative. But, that only makes refusal more radical but no less moral and in fact more and more necessary.
The other option seems to be accelerationism, in the service of pissing more people off but I'm not sure I can condone that yet.
The safest bet is to give up luxury in favor of removing dependence on these market realities, thus reducing your reliance on the masses of the unconcerned, and by proxy, their influencers. That's hard, unfortunately.
It's possible that I'm just wrong but I'm still okay to tilt at windmills for now, rather than buckle and break.

@pwm @mw1cgg it's the morally highest ground to take, but usually it's not enough to even save everyone that wants to not allow bad treatment from said treatment. You get lost in the crowd of people ignorant, spineless or desperate and lose quality of life for no noticeable positive effect.

I don't like resorting to prohibiting things, but sometimes it just results in effectively the same outcome if everyone suffering grew a spine and engaged in boycott together anyway, but without requiring that to take place. (It generally never does.)

Would I want my gov to take away existing workers' rights so that workers fight for them themselves? I'd have to be insane. We know how it'd end.

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