just wait until you see how much power those Visa mainframes cost :comfysmug:

RE: https://historians.social/users/tkinias/statuses/112283441665687815
Thanasis Kinias  
I just read that a single Bitcoin transaction requires upwards of 1,000 kW-hr of electricity. That’s like running a small air conditioner 24/7 for ...

@icedquinn i was able to see it on the mitra front end, btc transactions consume 1.5 months of air conditioner use...? it must be getting more effecient!!! last i heard it was YEARS lol.

seriously though, millions of ppl don't run an airconditioner EVER....to them this must be music to their ears! also considering the fact that as the available energy goes down so does the hashrate, also thanks to lihtning network i shouldn't need to have more than 4 or so open channels in a year to do infinite transactions in that year.

bitcoin is so dang incredible. in only wish the computers we produce could securely handle it :aru_0100:

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@frogzone i don't think the btc stuff is organic. i think the "it drug dealer" narrative has lost effectiveness and now someone is running the muh carbon narrative. that whole wave showed up one day due to a news article and the article never even looks at the cost of what goes in to transacting USD, or the forever wars that go in to protecting the USD from competing gold/oil currencies, with the wasted war on ukraine probably blowing out the carbon budget (but nobody is talking about it.)

basically, somebody has told the useful idiots to be mad and so they are.

nevermind stuff like Lightning which is meant to bring the costs back down
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@icedquinn @frogzone you underestimate how dumb people can get when presented with an opportunity to jump on a hate bandwagon for a popular thing. There's surely some industry-sponsored actors helping them along with sponsored research and the like, but I'd say 95%+ of it is completely organic, nobody even had to tell them to be mad, they were mad by default.

Also I'm not sure helping an entire country of people retain sovereignty, ensuring its, and Finland's alignment, turning the Baltic into a NATO lake, testing out newer weapons and exposing Russia as a paper tiger could be considered a "wasted war", it seems to me like the best thing the US spent tax dollars since the actual moon landings. Usually they just go into helping lobbying monopolists along lol

@Amikke @icedquinn when the corporate state have to unperson ppl who are bitcoiners so they can harness ppls full ignorant, thats when u kno the sh!t is not organic, and FULLY 100% stage managed.

not sure your other take is consistent with reality but you seem passionate about it so will not challenge u on it, all i will say is the monopolists "never let a good tragedy go to waste".

@icedquinn @Amikke i just noticed that qoto is now amazon served.... i must ask your admin, how much money they are giving anti-trust actor amazon for the hosting? when did this start? why? also by using amazon s3 and cloudront to serve images is qoto happy with this? this means all images are likely going into amazons AI systems also are they doing anything towards decentralizing content delivery moving forward? because shifting everything onto antitrust abuser servers is not an ethical solution.

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@Amikke @frogzone
> nobody even had to tell them to be mad, they were mad by default.

i'm pretty sure all those bombs used up more 'carbon allowance' than btc has, but i literally never hear anyone talk about the carbon cost of forever wars.

i only hear it when its people pushing austerity for civilian affairs.
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