I've just realised two things:
1. AI luddites are essentially vegans in both reasoning and attitude to life.
2. I've seen *much* less vegan evangelism since the anti-AI evangelism started.

Are they just the exact same people happy they can be mad about something else? Is the Venn diagram of vegans and AI luddites just a circle?

@Amikke i'm not sure you are using luddite correctly :cat_sad:

@icedquinn I think I am, I've seen the term "AI luddites" used many times and it describes them very well.

@Amikke ludd being a general anti-tech sentiment was propaganda from the industrialists being criticized for using industrialization to centralize control

i've rarely seen anyone recognize how much of a hazard normalizing "send everything to altman" actually is, they're always stuck on just "but the JOOOOBBBSSS" :senko_hm:

@icedquinn of course anyone wanting to use automation to centralise control will try to equate people against the former with people against the latter, as it makes them look ridiculous. Doesn't change the fact that in both cases the luddite movement is founded by workers whose jobs are getting automated crying that the entirety of society will benefit at the cost of them having to find a different job.

@Amikke @icedquinn the largest criticism is for ai is actually that you people are idiots for trusting something proven to be maliciously deceptive and manipulative, as well as ushering in a surveillance state as these random tech CEOs are given political power and army ranks.
@technolyze @Amikke the surveilance state is coming regardless. randoms refuse to punish politicos for grabs.
@icedquinn @Amikke it has never been as enabled and theoretically possible to have literal 1984 than now thanks to llm, as well as federal executive government actively attempting to thwart regulations on it. Federal police forces are actively using janky as ai identification and processing tools to build cases on citizens.
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@technolyze @icedquinn yeah that sucks but it's the same kind of argument as "pans are bad because you can hit people over the head with them". Have you considered the possibility of supporting some uses of a technology and not others?

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