I've just realised two things:
1. AI luddites are essentially vegans in both reasoning and attitude to life.
2. I've seen *much* less vegan evangelism since the anti-AI evangelism started.

Are they just the exact same people happy they can be mad about something else? Is the Venn diagram of vegans and AI luddites just a circle?

@Amikke i'm not sure you are using luddite correctly

@icedquinn I think I am, I've seen the term "AI luddites" used many times and it describes them very well.

@Amikke ludd being a general anti-tech sentiment was propaganda from the industrialists being criticized for using industrialization to centralize control

i've rarely seen anyone recognize how much of a hazard normalizing "send everything to altman" actually is, they're always stuck on just "but the JOOOOBBBSSS"

@icedquinn of course anyone wanting to use automation to centralise control will try to equate people against the former with people against the latter, as it makes them look ridiculous. Doesn't change the fact that in both cases the luddite movement is founded by workers whose jobs are getting automated crying that the entirety of society will benefit at the cost of them having to find a different job.

@Amikke @icedquinn the largest criticism is for ai is actually that you people are idiots for trusting something proven to be maliciously deceptive and manipulative, as well as ushering in a surveillance state as these random tech CEOs are given political power and army ranks.

@technolyze damn, I didn't get the memo that if I support the technology I also have to be an idiot giving everything away to random tech CEOs. Was it passed along with the memo that all open source models and all AI companies other than the big bad ones suddenly disappeared overnight and are impossible to bring back?

@icedquinn

@Amikke @icedquinn doesn't unown you. Doesn't change the fact of what the majority of the population is embracing with eyes closed. Doesn't change the weird propaganda farm thats trying to create transhumanist warhammer caricatures that now have DOD(DOW whatever) access. There's legitimate shit to be worried about and you reducing it to 'muh jobs' is actually bullshit propaganda to make people not pay attention to the much larger society repressing and destroying consequences.

@technolyze @icedquinn @Amikke nobody cares about the growing demand for data centers until it happens in their own neighborhoods

@subnetter @icedquinn @Amikke the noise pollution is literally killing people in granbury but my main concerns is the completion of the full spectrum surveillance state that’s coming out of all of this