maybe i loudly bitch about programming because i'm Nordic. just look at Linus Torvalds kernel discussions...
@lore I didn't think he was unpleasant. I was a member of the FSF. I will say it would be unpleasant to be stuck in an elevator with RMS and Torvalds.
Torvalds was also one of the first people that I know of that was important to Computer Science and wasn't an Engineer, Mathematician or Physicist. Bill Gates, Steve Balmer and RMS were Mathematicians. Wozniak was an Electrical Engineer and Computer Scientist.
Torvalds would be unpleasant if he was incorrect. His stubbornness about the license of his Kernel was probably the right call.
@AmpBenzScientist Torvalds hadn't originally planned on open sourcing his project. it wasn't really a trend to do that back in the 90s. the way to be a cool guy back then was to simply release stuff as freeware, but he got talked into using the GPL. probably made easier by the fact that he's from Finland, a Nordic country where a "think about the common good" mindset is mainstream.
@lore He actually met RMS after a friend convinced him to go to an event on campus. That's why he would release his Kernel as GPLv2. I believe it was released in 91 and GNU was messing around with Hurd. GNU saw it and the possibility of making a complete OS was now possible.
Of all the strange things, he met his wife after teaching a course and getting the students to email him. A woman asked him on a date in one email. I'm pretty sure that is not acceptable even in Perkele land.
He scuba dives too. I wonder if Torvalds and Freemo will ever meet.
