@Blackstarwritings
Anarchy is the state of a society without a governing body. (Social) power is the capacity to influence the behavior of others. Government is merely the codification of social power and its flow to make power transitions stable and peaceful. Given that power hierarchies always naturally form in large groups of people, this means that anarchy as a social state is impossible to sustain for any significant amount of time.

@Demosthenes

Hierarchy does not "naturally" form, as if to imply that hierarchy is natural within nature, which it simply isn't. Hierarchy is a human construct, an institutionalized system of domination and subjugation.

Anarchy is *not* society without a governing body. Anarchism as a political theory advocates the abolishment of hierarchy (political, social, economic) in favor of a society based in the liberty and equality of all.

Follow

@Blackstarwritings
Heirarchy exists in every other primate species. Chimpanzee troops have an alpha-male that monopolizes finite resources.
In fact, social hierarchy exists in every single social species.
I got my definition of anarchy straight from wikipedia. You may be thinking of communism.
Thank you for the levelheaded discussion BTW. Sometimes people don't like actually talking about this stuff.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchy?

@Demosthenes

Wikipedia isn't exactly the best at always accurately representing complex political ideologies and theories.

As for the hierarchy of apes, I once again have to disagree. Note that I defined hierarchy as an institutionalized system of domination and subjugation. While there may exist, among certain species of apes, these aren't hierarchies in that they aren't institutions. The idiosyncratic domination of this or that ape does not constitute a hierarchy.

@Demosthenes

This video contains some interesting context for this discussion, particularly in regards to apes and social domination:

youtu.be/A4UMyTnlaMY

@Blackstarwritings
When you say institution, what do you mean? Domination and subjugation undoubtedly occurs within chimpanzee troops, so whether I agree with our or not really depends on what you mean by an institution and an institutional system.

@Demosthenes

As I said previously, an institution is a human social construct. By that I mean something that is an established, conscious practice within a social community. For example, the nation-state is a political institution in that it is an established, conscious social structure that is upheld within the community.

Something that isn't an institution could be say, the fluid dynamics of animal groups, which constant change based on idiosyncratic contexts within each grouping.

@Demosthenes

To elaborate, apes may have this or that ape who may take on a dominating position for a period of time, but will be deposed by another ape who manages to do so. Gorillas for example have a similar dynamic, but this isn't an institution. The Gorillas exchanging power dynamics don't do so according to custom or law but basic social instincts. They aren't "institutions" or rather, don't exist based on conscious social custom or law.

Sign in to participate in the conversation
Qoto Mastodon

QOTO: Question Others to Teach Ourselves
An inclusive, Academic Freedom, instance
All cultures welcome.
Hate speech and harassment strictly forbidden.