@Cleisthenes @Elfie you misunderstand. We will almost definitely be fine militarily. But our economy will be fucked, our government will be fucked. Other countries will think poorly of democracy and start adopting china's governmental model. Our economy would wither, THEN our military would decline.

@Demosthenes @Cleisthenes
everyone will think poorly of democracy regardless unless a second election takes place and legally speaking it's impossible for such a thing to happen

>adopting China's government model
again, that will happen regardless of America or not, Europe doesn't need the US for that and Asia has never been democratic

if anything I think adopting such model would be good since it might accelerate war between the EU, Russia and China against any independent nation in Asia

@Elfie @Cleisthenes oh you're an accelerationist. That makes sense from your posts. Makes no sense though.

@Demosthenes @Cleisthenes
what makes no sense

I guess I'm accelerationist, I simply have no faith in the future so take or give a war doesn't mean much to me

@Elfie @Cleisthenes ah so you only look forward to a war so you can leverage the chaos to gain power.
Individually, that mentality may be rational. When that mentality becomes widespread though, then it's destabilizing and dangerous, not just for others but for you.

@Demosthenes @Cleisthenes
the whole history of my country is just brothers backstabbing each other for the sake of it

that's basically the only mentality people have even to this day