@AmishSuperModel Universal Healthcare. It works.
@JonKramer @AmishSuperModel Well, unless you need mental health support within the next 6 to 12 months or so, but yeah, I do very much enjoy not having to check my bank balance before I decide if I'm going to get a detached extremity put back on.
@gordoooo_z @AmishSuperModel, have you priced mental health services or availability in the USA?
@JonKramer @AmishSuperModel No, but let me clarify that I was not implying that I thought whatever was going on over there was a better alternative, but that we still have room for improvement (and another self-guided CBT app is not going to cut it).
@gordoooo_z @JonKramer Let me clarify for you both, not that this isn’t a healthy debate.
The tweet meant that America doesn’t have the market cornered on mental illness, WE HAVE A GUN PROBLEM!
@AmishSuperModel @JonKramer That was not at all unclear. I would say "it shouldn't even need to be said" but clearly it does, and clearly it always has, but clearly it may not matter what anybody says about it. Is the gun control debate even about guns anymore?
It's more about whose side you're on. Meanwhile actual people are being actually shot with actual bullets while monied people in high places argue about their favourite colour.
@gordoooo_z @AmishSuperModel , it should be noted who does the shooting. Despite having the same access to guns, women do not commit mass murders or gun crimes. It isn't "the guns". It IS young conservative men. We seem to ignore this, I'm guessing because it isn't politically correct to make the observation. But this is real. The next mass shooter (killing strangers) will be a young white Christian male. This can't be ignored.
@JonKramer @gordoooo_z I am NOT disagreeing with either of you. Testosterone-fueled shootings run rampant in America. Crazy white males and mass shootings draw big media, but urban crime is constant. Either way, the problem is EASY ACCESS TO GUNS! Whether it’s urban gangs, mental health, or males—the issue is easy access to guns! Check where the guns come from in Chicago crimes.
@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , I disagree. If you take away guns, the root cause remains. The homicide rates won't change. The weapons will change, but I have never met anyone who said "I'm glad my child was beaten to death with a bat, instead of being shot", so I don't see this as an improvement. Nations that ban guns don't see drops in homicide rates. We need to refocus on the root cause. Even if that isn't politically correct.
The problem is disease. Mental disease, affecting young men. POTUS should order the CDC to investigate. But, this seems to be another 3rd rail of politics. It's just easier to blame guns...
@JonKramer @AmishSuperModel obviously the gun itself isn't the root cause of gun violence. Somebody has to pull the trigger and there's definitely something in the water down there--nd in the last few years probably the milk, the grass, the air, I digress--but the fact is still that if you want to do the most damage with the most efficiency, well, an AR-15 seems like a pretty good choice*. Not too many of that style of weapon in Canada.
@gordoooo_z @AmishSuperModel it's hand guns that kill the most, and it isn't in the water, because women drink the same water.
It's young conservative men. Seriously. And ya, they occasionally drive vans into crowds. Or other cars. Women don't do that either. We are focused on the wrong thing. And that we are focused wrong is blatantly obvious.
It's a healthcare issue. Mental health.
@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z I will say that nations with universal health-care, and access to weapons, do not have the same issues we have. This not proof it is a health care issue, but it's pretty damn persuasive.
@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , the Swiss have a sub machine gun in almost every home. Canadians have tons of rifles. Yes, the USA has the greatest access, and STILL women do not engage in atrocities.
I'm not sure what you are trying to argue here. Do you think American women DO commit mass shootings in numbers representative of their population numbers?
@JonKramer @gordoooo_z No, women have never been main perpetrators of violent crime, rape, wars, etc. But that is the same around the world. So assuming men are primary perpetrators worldwide, how does that explain America’s disparity in gun deaths? Are you assuming all Conservative White Males need therapy and that will solve the problem? We just red-flag them? You realize it’s those same folks fight Universal background checks?
@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z I assume no solutions. I suggest it is very likely a lack of health care. I don't know providing healthcare will solve the problem, but I assume if it does, it will take several generations. Too bad we didn't start the process 50 years ago, eh? At this point, we refuse to even study the issue.
@JonKramer @gordoooo_z No, I asked who you advocated this study to?
@AmishSuperModel @gordoooo_z , I have no profit motive to lie...
@JonKramer @gordoooo_z There is no other industrialized nation on the planet with the prevalence of and ease of access to guns than the US.