The idea of sin in Judeo-Christian religions assumes the existence of a soul with free will. A person may choose to commit a sin or not and the sin taints their soul if they do.

Yet, the laws of physics do not leave room for free will. The brain makes decisions based on its physical structure and sensory input, and there is no non-physical force acting upon it (the "soul") to influence it. If there was we would be able to detect it.

#philosophy #religion #soul #sin #freeWill #physics

@jackofalltrades

That seems to compartmentalize morality, and limit free will to the 'soul'.

#Physics has nothing solid to say about free will or souls. We have yet to surmount the topic of #consciousness, or even life.

We can say the the #brain's internal structure changes over time, and stores past #information in an interconnected format. When faced with #decisions, the first filter or branch immediately draws from this data to inform the 'fight or flight' type response. The standard default is to back away from the unknown.

However, when you add more info to this data, you add more degrees of freedom. This manifests as '#FreeWill'.

@MalthusJohn Physics has plenty to say about free will and soul, in particular that they are not detectable in the material world in any capacity. Applying Occam's razor we could say that they don't really exist.

All decisions are purely the result of physical processes in the brain, however complicated they may be. There is no soul that resides outside of the material world that influences inner workings of the brain. For all we know the future may be strictly predetermined.

@jackofalltrades @MalthusJohn
Even if the universe were not deterministic, free will would still be nonsense.
The addition of randomness just makes it less predictable, there is no freedom in that - your decisions would strictly depend on nondeterministic dice rolls.

@karlo @jackofalltrades @MalthusJohn

is a *misnomer*. If our will is *free to do as it pleases* then we don't have any say in the decisions it makes.

The problem of has nothing to do with . It is all about .

As , we are born ***unwillingly*** within the of our genes and the of our environment, family, culture, and society, upon which we have little or no *control*.

However, our (*singular*) and our current were also affected over the years by layers upon layers of little decisions that we've made to ***willingly*** transition from one state to another "better" one.

In#Kihbernetics, , , and are all internal to the system.

The may throw things at you but how you is totally up to you (your current state).

@Kihbernetics Completely agree.

I would add that while how you respond is up to you (your state), your state is not up to you (whatever that would mean, probably the nonsensical free will).

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The I'm talking about is the present state of every living which is controlled by the closed ***autopoietic*** process of and :

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