I can't believe there are still people who think they have 'good reasons' for carrying firearms or thinking it's a normal thing after what went down (again) in Monterey Park..
Shooting after shooting and nothing changes. Where are all your 'protection guns' if you need them?
Seriously, it's like talking to a wall but walls listen better in general..
Most people can't handle a phone, let alone a gun or worse 
Ofc situations are different everywhere in the world but that shouldn't be an excuse to not make changes!
A little example, that I am personally very happy with:
If you are spotted with a firearm(fake or real) here in the #Netherlands, a special police unit will be called in to arrest your ass..
Weapons are NOT normal, if you feel you have to carry it something is wrong around you or with you..
Stop making excuses.. it's getting old real fast
Imagine...
An advanced alien spieces have scoped out Earth and decided to check us out but not for us hoomans but to safe all other spieces.
I have no explaination for our behaviour against each other or the planet we live on, I kinda would be ashamed to present what we have now..
Corruption on the highest levels, people playing with others life, eating the planet away..
Ants are more fair than hoomans are.. that's freaking absurd
For the aliens sake, let's improve drastically!
The reason why guns are legal in the US is because the drafters of the Bill of Rights wanted to make sure people could defend their lives and their freedom from anyone who would try to take their lives or freedom away, including an oppressive government.
In the US our country just killed over a million of its own citizens. A government like that, lacking in any conscience or morality could just as easily decide to start rounding up it citizens for who knows what reason. It happened in Germany, it could happen here.
Living in a country like that, I'd say we definitely need to keep our guns -- just in case.
FYI, guns in US are used defensively to protect lives three times as often as they are used to commit a crime.
@Pat @stux You're propagating gun manufacturer propaganda. That's not at all why the 2nd amendment was drafted and passed. It was, in many ways, a byproduct of the need to ensure slave holders had the means to put down slave rebellions.
Was Slavery a Factor in the Second Amendment? https://nyti.ms/2x8O6h0
@joeinwynnewood @Pat @stux Thank you! Resisted the urge to jump into this the first time I read this thread
I think your point was that guns were (are) used to oppress.
My point was that guns help keep people free, when everyone has an equal right to possess them.
Most people who want to prohibit the right to possess guns are selective as to who can keep them. They believe that police or military can keep guns while ordinary citizens cannot. This is a recipe for oppression.
My point was that the 2nd amendment was not born of a belief in an inherent right to own a gun nor as a hedge against government infringement on personal rights.
As there's never been equal rights to gun possession nor likely to ever be, "freedom by gun" seems an illusion.
Most in the US want real licensing/training/responsibility/safety requirements & tools used for mass murder to be severely restricted if not banned.
Guns are deadly weapons & should be regulated accordingly.
As for guns being used for defense far more often than crime, paint me more than a tad bit skeptical - https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/
@stux
Also, FYI, more people have been killed by COVID-19 since you drafted this thread an hour ago, then died in that CA shooting.