Stop trying to make "the only ethical choice is to leave Twitter" happen unless you've made the choice to not listen to the Black communities who have explained why it's still important for many.

Yes, the owner is clearly, at a minimum, openly friendly with fascists. Now wait until you hear about the everyday lives of Black Americans in predominantly White communities and workplaces.

Make your choice but do not proclaim it to be "the only" reasonable choice.

#BlackTwitter #BlackMastodon

@mergerson

FWIW, I'm in touch with techies some of whom are ex-Twitter: Twitter WILL collapse technically, in a few months. It will also collapse financially according to the business sources I follow.

Now is the time to prepare other spaces, because Twitter is just not going to be usable by this time next year. This is not an ethical argument, this is a pragmatic argument. The only viable choice is to build somewhere else ASAP.

@mergerson I still have my Twitter account for advocacy but I know the countdown to demolition has started.

@neroden What if I told you that Black Americans are extremely tech savvy and well-informed as to developments, and can make their own judgments as to timing and next steps?

@mergerson @neroden So much of the "only reasonable choice" crowd comes across like, "I made a choice based on my religious fever, and you must now accept my religious faith and do as I did or you are now the heathen!"

Sorry folks, I don't do the techno-religious thing. I favor posting here, some I follow will stay on the Bird Site for their reasons. If that isn't good enough, we all have to learn to live with world world world world world world world world. world world d sometime. Today is that day for those making a religion of leaving Twitter.

@Romaq @mergerson @neroden it's virtue signaling, I don't think it needs to go so far as to be compared to religion when it has a term. It's just people who don't do shit in activism or the real world pretending that their online existence has meaning by proving to each other that they have the biggest ethics (they don't).

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@meowlygrowly

skeptoid.com/episodes/4419 refers to "Slactivism." But as far as the use of the term "Religion," Yes... slactivism has a name, as does virtue signaling. However, when it relies on opinion as facts, personal views as dogma, if it frames the discussion as "us vs. them," if the dividing line appears arbitrary to someone with no stake in the issue... it might be considered religion having all the trappings of one.

And so it is I totally annoy the hell out of religious atheists, religious Libertarians, religious Democrats, religious Republicans, and so on. "MY SPECIAL THING ISN'T A RELIGION," they cry. Then they get particularly upset when I ask them to point out the difference in tactics and behavior from whatever given religion they claim to hate.

"Leave Twitter and join Mastodon or you are a HEATHEN!" Uhm... smells like religion, talks like religion, proselytizes like a religion... Ok. Whatever. Religion, then.

@mergerson @neroden

@Romaq who is the one being worshiped? Where are the tithings sent? When is the indoctrination ceremony? As a victim of religious/catholic trauma and someone who studies ancient religions, I don't like loose translations of religion I guess. "A bunch of people did this because they all decided something was moral or just" isn't very convincing.

@meowlygrowly

Are you saying animism isn't a religion? It does not have "one being." Does it require tithings? Does Ancestry Worship require tithings? Does animism require an "indoctrination ceremony?"

You may not like "loose translations", but we will have to disagree where I'm quite comfortable suggesting "religion is as religion does."

"A bunch of people took their personal opinion as the Law of the Universe, an article of faith that must be believed regardless of evidence or contrary opinion." If such people take issue with their behavior being described as "religious," perhaps they should reconsider the nature of their behavior.

@Romaq people also call veganism a religion and they'd be wrong.

@meowlygrowly

Is "Veganism" a monolithic culture? Must everyone self-proclaimed as "Vegan" behave so as to be profusely obnoxious to some who are cutting back on their meat intake? Do all vegans refuse to feed their cats meat in any form, which *WILL* kill their cat?

Or would Veganism maybe fall into an umbrella of some... most? ... seeking kindness and respect towards animal based life? May a "Vegan" include those who choose not to eat meat, but ALSO refuse to be jerks about it towards those who are not yet ready, but may consider the value of cutting back on a meat diet for many MANY good reasons?

When you say, "Vegan," are we talking about good ideas for people to consider on evidence based merit? Or are we talking about a group of people being jack-assess because of their self-proclaimed moral supremacy over lesser beings and mortals? How do you plan to define "Vegan?"

And why would you take issue with me applying this same standard against people insisting leaving Twitter is a moral stance to shame people who don't just fall over themselves in shame for not doing so?

@Romaq @mergerson @neroden is doing literally nothing slacking or just nothing 🤔

@meowlygrowly

Did you *READ* the article on why "Slactivism" is doing "something" that is proven, based on the evidence, WORSE than not doing anything?

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