@freemo I just finished reading Loserthink, Scott Adams' new book. On this very happening thread right now, it's tempting to reply to posts with photos of pages from this book. I found myself engaged in what he calls Loserthink early on, tried to pull back from debating the meanings of words, but moral equivalency, ends justifying means, and more unhelpful ways of thinking are quite readily on display. I'm glad I read the book recently.